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From: Thomas Sachau <tommy@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-12-13
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 15:43:08
Message-Id: 4EDB94E2.8090007@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-12-13 by Fabian Groffen
1 Fabian Groffen schrieb:
2 > On 04-12-2011 15:17:28 +0100, Thomas Sachau wrote:
3 >> 1. Should the change of quiet build default in recent portage versions
4 >> be reverted?
5 >>
6 >> The timeframe between suggestion and implementation was less than 14
7 >> hours, so way too less time for a real discussion. Additionally, the
8 >> discussion following the change has shown, that there is no consensus
9 >> about this change neither for developers nor for users. So i would like
10 >> to see this reverted, at least until we get to a consensus at this topic
11 >> in which case the consensus result should be implemented.
12 >
13 > Ok, you mean the --quiet-build=y default that most recent Portage uses,
14 > right? Also known to some as the parallel build output.
15
16 Yes
17
18 >
19 >> 2. Should the default output of portage be changed to quiet?
20 >>
21 >> If yes, is a simple portage message for 2.1.* users enough to inform
22 >> users about this highly visible change? Especially in the context in
23 >> mind, that a good amount of packages have elog messages, so it is pretty
24 >> easy to miss this hint for a change in portage behaviour.
25 >
26 > You suggest a news item here? Or do you want Portage in quiet mode to
27 > print elog messages? (If I'm not mistaken, it already does.)
28 >
29 >
30
31 If this does not get reverted and if it gets accepted to be the default,
32 i would request a news item, when it goes into a stable version of
33 portage, since a good amount of people wondered, why the portage output
34 changed (default for --quiet-build was changed), why it was done and how
35 they could change that behaviour.

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