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From: William Hubbs <williamh@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 00:57:13
Message-Id: X9Vm5e8MZZpkXnp8@linux1.home
In Reply to: Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) by Roy Bamford
1 As myself only, I want to add some info to this.
2
3 On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 01:07:39AM +0000, Roy Bamford wrote:
4 > On 2020.12.11 21:23, Thomas Deutschmann wrote:
5 > > Hi,
6 > >
7 > > The topic has been discussed extensively in the past few weeks; The
8 > > sad
9 > > climax was last Tuesday. At this point I will not look back anymore.
10 > > Maybe all of us could have done a better job but whataboutism doesn’t
11 > > help anyone. Let's try to focus on a possible solution.
12 > >
13 > > To recall the problem:
14 > > On November 7th, Gentoo forum member "Old School" named another human
15 > > being a slut (https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-8526392.html#8526392).
16 > >
17 > > This is a violation of Gentoo's code of conduct where we explicit
18 > > state
19 > > that "posting messages that are deliberately hostile and insulting"
20 > > are
21 > > unacceptable behaviors
22 > > (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/Code_of_conduct).
23 > >
24 > > This is not about free speech. Gentoo is primary a Linux distribution,
25 > > not a discussion platform. This is about us who defined once how we
26 > > want
27 > > to treat each other in the Gentoo community and everyone participating
28 > > must adhere to our code of conduct. It’s that simple.
29 > >
30 > > I expect that everyone in Gentoo, including forum moderators, agree on
31 > > that.
32
33 The free speech issue is only relevant in terms of government sensorship
34 (at least in the US that's the case)
35 it doesn't prevent a private organization from setting community guidelines and taking disciplinary action against people who don't follow them [1].
36
37 [1] https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-1/
38
39 > I have a major concern with the concept of the council
40 > deciding to close any part of the forum. Its like this ...
41 > At present, Gentoo is a common carrier, like the mail.
42 > The content of letters and parcels is of little concern to the
43 > carrier.
44
45 Common carrier status seems to apply to ISPs and Telecomm companies
46 [2]. Gentoo is neither, so I have to disagree with your claim that is
47 a common carrier.
48
49 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_carrier
50
51 William

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