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From: Thomas Sachau <tommy@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-12-13
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 14:17:59
Message-Id: 4EDB80F8.1090800@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-12-13 by Fabian Groffen
1 Fabian Groffen schrieb:
2 > All,
3 >
4 > Apologies for the short notice in advance.
5 >
6 > In a little more than one week, the council will meet again. This is
7 > the time to raise and prepare items that the council should put on the
8 > agenda to vote on.
9 >
10 > Please respond to this email with agenda items. Please do not hestitate
11 > to repeat your agenda item here with a pointer if you previously
12 > suggested one (since the last meeting).
13 >
14 > The agenda for the next meeting will be sent out on Tuesday 6th of
15 > December 2011.
16 >
17 > Please respond to gentoo-project list, if possible.
18 >
19 >
20
21 1. Should the change of quiet build default in recent portage versions
22 be reverted?
23
24 The timeframe between suggestion and implementation was less than 14
25 hours, so way too less time for a real discussion. Additionally, the
26 discussion following the change has shown, that there is no consensus
27 about this change neither for developers nor for users. So i would like
28 to see this reverted, at least until we get to a consensus at this topic
29 in which case the consensus result should be implemented.
30
31 2. Should the default output of portage be changed to quiet?
32
33 If yes, is a simple portage message for 2.1.* users enough to inform
34 users about this highly visible change? Especially in the context in
35 mind, that a good amount of packages have elog messages, so it is pretty
36 easy to miss this hint for a change in portage behaviour.

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