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From: "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <jmbsvicetto@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Should DevRel members be in Council?
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 01:10:33
Message-Id: 4E4C665A.1070205@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-project] Should DevRel members be in Council? by Markos Chandras
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On 14-08-2011 11:12, Markos Chandras wrote:
> Hi, > > This is the second item I would like to discuss for the next Council > agenda ( or a later one ) > > Quite a few of you know that Council acts as a court in case a > developer has unresolved disputes with Devrel or when he is not happy > with a Devrel's decision. The problem is that having the same people > in the Council and in Devrel makes no sense since the same people > will vote twice on that matter. A developer who wants to appeal to > Council, seeks a review of his case and a fresh voting from new > people. However, having devrel members, which are already biased > based on the previous decision, makes the "Council's court role" a > moot role :) > > Again, this is just a brainstorming, so please let me know what you > think.
Yes, we should have no rules preventing DevRel members from running to and or serve in the Council. Furthermore, to address this type of concerns, in every Council election the table of candidates has a column for DevRel members, current Council members and Trustees[1]. So it's up to the developer community to decide if they want a particular candidate, DevRel member or not, to serve in the Council. Also, the Council serves as an "appeal body"[2], not a "trial court"[3]. To address some of the suggestions on this thread, my opinion is that DevRel is the body with disciplinary oversight over developers and that Council should restrict itself to appeals. In my view, by having direct intervention, the Council would limit itself and prevent any chance of an appeal. In addition, "trial by popularity" is always a bad idea and as others have stated, council members are frequently elected for dealing with technical issues and are not or may not have the required skill set to deal with disciplinary issues. [1] - http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/elections/council/2011/council-201106-nominees.xml [2] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appellate_court [3] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_court - -- Regards, Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections / RelEng -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOTGZaAAoJEC8ZTXQF1qEPpH4P/3XJ+ai9bwZF9Bk+GDe1CLOo +gocwnTaQvjdAOQbNghyLgoHSFPCPbAreS8ZaDJwW9/RuqYkI6l82VKRdCC15Mv2 7SoH0CvD/AzLP8z0uKmC4qMU+KOGo3hRU8yoJOt3FfRS+9Q/xLbunkALkM7edGzv 2xSew39F3Tp1x8CBwPUzYWW9K7DCbynOej0e2gW3d52UuVfpb+nZCGXlbzUQYUyX TwcDaX604nAkhSdhhRsHGbvSB+B6lLmQ3ekUWpVecsfvcZe/5LdGYBB00i7YKRlP YV5n3f8eMV/G7I+KGCDLLKzgBjsJo44B4p12j3Bg5RMsz6j+i9fQKVHqF51fJ1gD ruSt07uijO88f7vG2ghXU4pVFBPgeVntMjWRS661tIqPBie8yA24Fx0q3W+XdF2R 5YjyzdRe8PXqkZoA5GRkz4RCHCgVYwnTp1tObwPWLsjknTxLslp8or8i//MIE9IO suD3nx9wRmranaIx3X71qoFBxI/xVNgCUeTuambwGmBx0tMZ7t1rgcK52Rogb7is u9PEnRujhU+X9KUhagtl6+GLTsIlk+vXWLEAO6rdj1SCW2wSA30KJxwFYSWFoZtx ci65ado7i7Io/FFIhNUzb6itdLxaES7G0L+HAYO7zI4AJLkMetpdOcr8X1mJPd+z PkTHbaQbEctzI2wZUYo+ =GSs8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----