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From: Thomas Deutschmann <whissi@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Cc: comrel@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: comrel changes
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 23:40:49
Message-Id: cbe57aa7-e006-421e-f1de-73890ce4da49@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: comrel changes by "Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn"
1 Hi,
2
3 I also don't understand what you expect from metrics.
4
5 Imagine the following metrics for January:
6
7 > - number of bugs received: 22
8 > - number of bugs pending: 10
9 > - number of bugs resolved by actions: 2
10 > - number of bugs closed without action: 10
11 >
12 > - number of mediation requests received: 0
13 > - number of mediation requests resolved: 0
14 > - number of mediation requests escalated to bugs: 0
15 > - number of mediation requests dismissed without action: 0
16
17 Now what? :-)
18
19 These numbers have no real meaning. Without knowing why 10 bugs are
20 pending you don't know if ComRel people are slackers or if bugs were
21 just filed in the last day(s) of January.
22
23 Without knowing details nobody can answer if ComRel people are slackers,
24 acting like the US supreme court or if it was OK to close 10 bugs
25 without any action.
26
27 The thing is, people *will* read *something* into these numbers which
28 can only go wrong and won't help us. For me, it's the same like the
29 transparency reports from Google, Facebook, Twitter: The number of
30 requests is increasing each year. Is that happening because authorities
31 around the world are more and more persecuting their citizen? Or is it
32 just because more and more authorities gained access to that instrument
33 which can now be used using some kind of standards? How does everything
34 correlate to service usage at all? You don't know but you can use such
35 reports to generate whatever message you like to send out. In the end,
36 these transparency reports are just some kind of show to keep people
37 quiet (Look, we do something!).
38
39 If we are interested in transparency, how about the following 'radical'
40 change: Let's make bugs *public*, at least for project members. In this
41 way, each project member can form their own view/opinion based on real
42 facts.
43
44 Maybe not from the beginning like some court hearings (trials) aren't
45 public as well. But because ComRel is speaking 'in the name of the
46 project', bugs should become accessible at least for project members
47 when ComRel's job is done like court decision are usually published.
48
49
50 --
51 Regards,
52 Thomas Deutschmann / Gentoo Linux Developer
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Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: comrel changes Luca Barbato <lu_zero@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: comrel changes "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>