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Michał Górny wrote: |
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> On śro, 2017-05-17 at 01:54 -0500, Dale wrote: |
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>> Michał Górny wrote: |
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>>> On wto, 2017-05-16 at 17:17 -0500, Dale wrote: |
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>>>> Rich Freeman wrote: |
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>>>>> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>>>>>> What stops me, is seeing someone who wants to help get shut down by others |
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>>>>>> just because they don't like him and in my opinion, targets him whenever |
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>>>>>> possible. |
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>>>>> You're making assumptions about motives. The fact is that you don't |
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>>>>> have any knowledge about why some people aren't welcome in the |
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>>>>> community. |
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>>>> Actually, I'm basing it on what I can clearly see. If I can see it, |
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>>>> don't you think others can too? Again, ignoring it, trying to force |
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>>>> people not to talk about it, doesn't help the problem. Like I said, I |
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>>>> been around Gentoo for a long time. I won't be a dev because of lots of |
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>>>> things over the years I've seen happen, most of them in public. |
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>>> No. You won't become a dev because you are not doing *anything* but |
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>>> talking. Just like a number of other people on this mailing list who are |
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>>> rejected because of lack of willingness to do anything useful, and then |
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>>> they claim that they reject Gentoo because it is so bad. |
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>>> Just FYI because I'm getting tired of this recurring theme. |
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>>> |
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>> So you are ignoring some of the possible solutions and changes I |
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>> included in my other posts? That is called doing something and I might |
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>> add, is more than most others are doing. Most others seem to want to |
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>> ignore the problems for a while longer. Then wonder why people keep |
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>> talking about it. |
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> No, I am ignoring most of your posts because I do not have time to read |
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> them. Those parts which I've read are long and talk of nothing. As far |
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> as I'm concerned, your contributions are 90% wasting others' time on |
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> reading what you wrote. |
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> Before you start solving problems in Gentoo, focus on problems with |
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> yourself. |
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> |
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Maybe you should take your own?? Since you ignore most of my posts, no |
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wonder you don't see the information I'm providing. You have to read |
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them to see it. If you don't want to read them, why are you commenting |
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on them? If I'm not going to bother to read your posts, I'm not going |
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to comment on it either. I read yours. Try reading mine or not |
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commenting thinking you know what is in it when you don't. So far, |
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your posts bring 100% nothing to the table. Your post is a 100% waste |
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of time. Maybe you need to work on that and actually discuss the topic |
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instead? |
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>> Do you have any solutions you would like to post? Or do you just want |
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>> to ignore that someone just posted that they are "incredibly |
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>> disappointed in the Gentoo Java team."? How many more need to post |
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>> something like that before you actually post something that will help |
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>> solve the problem? Let's hear your ideas on a solution. |
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> One good solution would be to kick most of the non-developers out of |
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> this mailing list, so that discussion can focus back on Gentoo, and not |
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> on self-pity of one ex-dev diverted so any times that I have no idea |
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> what the topic is anymore. Last I read, it's about who is trolling who, |
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> and why trolling is good as long as you pretend it's important. |
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> Then maybe people will have time to work on Gentoo rather than be |
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> distracted by useless spam. Then maybe they will be able to accept |
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> contributions. |
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> |
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Just so you know, since you admit you don't read most of my posts, I am |
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talking about Gentoo in each and every post. Maybe you should try |
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reading them before talking about what they are about since you have no |
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clue. |
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My posts do not meet the definition of trolling. Yours on the other |
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hand, just might. You seem to be trying to get a response from me but |
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you will be sadly disappointed. You won't get me to post something that |
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breaks the rules. You can push it if you want but it won't get you |
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anywhere. It might get attention that you would rather avoid tho. |
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Others may tolerate it but this one might not. |
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Since you mention spam. Your post brings absolutely nothing to the |
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topic. All it does is try to shut down meaningful discussion between |
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myself and a couple others even if you don't like the topic. I might |
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add, a ex-dev is not the only topic. If you would bother to read first, |
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you would know that. This is also about a person who put months of |
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effort into java only to be ignored and that work not accomplishing |
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anything for that person. It also left a bad impression on that person |
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given the way it was mishandled. That has nothing to do with a ex-dev. |
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When you are ready to read my posts and have a reasonable discussion, |
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post and let me know. In the meantime, I don't need nor care to hear |
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your attitude. If you don't want to read my posts or have a meaningful |
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exchange, ignore my posts in the future. |
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Dale |
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:-) :-) |