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From: Peter Volkov <pva@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-11-08
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:30:54
Message-Id: 1320049667.17148.37.camel@tablet
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-11-08 by "Michał Górny"
1 В Пнд, 31/10/2011 в 09:14 +0100, Michał Górny пишет:
2 > On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:43:49 +0400
3 > Peter Volkov <pva@g.o> wrote:
4 >
5 > > В Срд, 26/10/2011 в 18:35 +0200, Michał Górny пишет:
6 > > > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:30:25 +0200
7 > > > Fabian Groffen <grobian@g.o> wrote:
8 > >
9 > > > > In less than two weeks, the council will meet again. This is the
10 > > > > time to raise and prepare items that the council should put on
11 > > > > the agenda to vote on.
12 > > >
13 > > > As an extension of ChangeLog topic, I'd like to suggest to require
14 > > > developers to commit packages with matching (same) ChangeLog entries
15 > > > and commit messages.
16 > >
17 > > I don't see how this logic may work in case you need to modify
18 > > Changelog, so ... wontfix :)
19 >
20 > 'Need' is a very bad word here. I'd rather use 'have a wannabe'.
21
22 We have and use this feature now so... better word should be "must"
23 until somebody provides very valid reasons to drop it. Speaking about
24 your reasons:
25
26 > 1) easier migration to autogenerated ChangeLogs if we want that at
27 > some point,
28
29 Still questionable need.
30
31 > 2) better availability of the information (right now, looking up
32 > changes sometimes involves checking both CVS log and ChangeLog message
33 > to see what actually happened),
34
35 Was discussed many times with the resolution: they should be different.
36
37 > 3) one step towards preventing useless ChangeLog entries.
38
39 In the spirit of Gentoo to fix this issue we just need to improve our
40 tools and the first step, moving echangelog into repoman, is already
41 done:
42 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337853
43
44
45 With best regards,
46 --
47 Peter.