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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 16:27:38
Message-Id: CAGfcS_k6c8P8ngYFYLRrAXgf=KiDV1LLzfqDf3OEnozxCv+y5g@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08 by Ciaran McCreesh
1 On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Ciaran McCreesh
2 <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com> wrote:
3 > On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 05:23:08 -0400
4 > Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:
5 >> To think that counting is the one situation where it is actually
6 >> possible to have perfect precision, and we still manage to mess up the
7 >> units...
8 >
9 > Because the difference between 1000 and 1024 in this context is
10 > completely irrelevant. This is the ultimate bikeshed, and ISO/IEC is a
11 > rather unpleasant shade of mauve.
12
13 The whole point of SI is that it works beautifully when you start
14 mixing units.
15
16 Storage density could be expressed in GB/mm^2 or GiB/mm^2. The former
17 is FAR more useful.
18
19 1 GB/mm^2 = 1PB/m^2 = 1 kB/ìm^2.
20 1 GiB/mm^2 ~= 0.95 PiB/m^2 ~= 1.05 KiB/ìm^2
21
22 And heaven forbid you just use GB to mean 2^30 bytes - lots of
23 opportunity for error. However, even with unambiguous units the fact
24 that different elements of the compound units end up converting with
25 different bases makes the math not work out cleanly.
26
27 As long as you stay trapped in your nicely-discrete world of the
28 computer unit complexity doesn't matter so much as long as you stay
29 consistent (which isn't made easy by the fact that there are warring
30 factions over the definition of the kB). As soon as you start getting
31 into anything that involves the real world and engineering you can't
32 avoid the units used to measure things in the real world.
33
34 If you don't care about the math coming out cleanly then we might as
35 well go back to using short tons, inches, and torrs.
36
37 Rich

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Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08 Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08 Denis Dupeyron <calchan@g.o>