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Jorge, |
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On 07/03/10 02:26, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: |
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>> I wonder if we could start making a stronger distinction between these |
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>> two cases of retirement. If it isn't a throw-out I would prefer to have |
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>> that made so very clear that no one ever feels thrown out that way. |
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>> Especially that there's no guarantee to be allowed to return feels a bit |
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>> odd to me. |
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> please read the undertakers page and the resolution of the retirement |
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> bugs carefully as you seem to be confused about our policy to retired |
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> developers. |
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Confused about what exactly? |
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> The only case where re-admittance is subject to particular |
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> scrutiny is when a developer is retired for disciplinary reasons. As you |
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> can read in the second email template[1], we specifically inform the |
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> developer that: |
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> "If we do retire you, it's pretty easy to come back when you are ready. |
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> Just do the ebuild/end-quiz again and you're back on. You also always |
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> have the option of contributing as your schedule allows via proxy or |
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> bugzilla." |
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> We also make sure to mention in the retirement bugs that a developer can |
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> always return as seen on an example bug[2]. My apologies to Caleb to |
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> link directly to his bug, but I needed one concrete reply to show |
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> undertakers work. |
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Agreed, it could be worse. I would personally not trust on "you can |
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come back any time" though and looking forward to another round of |
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ebuild quizzes doesn't sound inviting to me either (not saying that |
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developers don't need to be up to date with Gentoo). I'm not sure if |
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I'm really the most or only sensitive person in Gentoo if that's coming |
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to your mind now. |
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Let me quote an excerpt by another developer. When I stumbled upon his |
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inactivity-based retirement bug I was asking if he really means to |
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retire. He said: |
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"If Gentoo likes to retire me, fine. I won't stop them. |
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I don't think, this will will help Gentoo get back on |
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track, though, if there is a way back at all." |
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So I don't seem to be the only one having a bad impression of our |
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current concepts of retirement. Do you read it differently? |
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Before I propose anything: What ways do you see to improve our concept |
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and realization of retirement? |
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Best, |
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Sebastian |