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On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 09:15:14 -0800 |
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Alec Warner <antarus@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 1:58 AM David Seifert <soap@g.o> wrote: |
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> > On Wed, 2020-12-16 at 09:23 +0000, James Le Cuirot wrote: |
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> > > I can certainly appreciate the benefits of this as I just haven't had |
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> > > the time to read most of the recent... uh... discussions. However, the |
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> > > idea of enforcing something like this doesn't bear thinking about. It |
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> > > reminds me way too much of 1984's Newspeak. If we're not going to |
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> > > enforce it then there seems little point in including it. The most |
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> > > verbose posters are unlikely to cut down just because we asked them |
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> > > nicely. |
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> > |
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> > https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct |
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> > The debian code of conduct has a section called "Try to be concise". |
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> > Would you really consider the Debian CoC Newspeak? |
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> I think the concern is that sometimes the CoC is wielded as a cudgel: e.g. |
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> "Be concise or I will ban you from the ML" |
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> This is different than as a *principle* or a *guideline*. I think its |
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> fine to say "We in Gentoo have a principle to be concise." This means |
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> when someone posts a very long post you can simply reply |
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> "Hi, Gentoo has a principle of concision, please try to apply that to |
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> your posts in future; I'm not going to respond to long messages." |
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> We have similar principles for code reviews (e..g don't send me a 1000 |
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> LoC review, send me 4 250 line ones broken apart so I can understand |
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> the changes.) It doesn't mean one can't send big reviews, but it means |
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> that when I get a 1000 LoC code review..the first thing I'm gonna do |
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> is tell the author "please break this up" and then the review goes to |
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> the bottom of my priority list. |
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Agreed and I think the key words in Debian's case are "Try to". If |
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enforcement is not the intention here and it's worded appropriately then |
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I don't have a problem with including it merely as a guideline. |
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James Le Cuirot (chewi) |
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