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From: Aaron Bauman <bman@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...)
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2020 15:14:35
Message-Id: X8Zd1hgLLcAYwZuk@samurai
In Reply to: Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) by "Aaron W. Swenson"
1 On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 10:06:53AM -0500, Aaron W. Swenson wrote:
2 > On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 05:15:30AM +0200, Andreas K. Hüttel wrote:
3 > >> Please respond to this message with agenda items. Do not hesitate to
4 > >> repeat your agenda item here with a pointer if you previously
5 > >> suggested one (since the last meeting).
6 > >
7 > >I would like to propose the council consider shutting down the "Off the Wall"
8 > >(OTW) forum on forums.gentoo.org permanently and without replacement.
9 > >
10 > >Rationale:
11 > >
12 > >* provides zero value to the distribution
13 > >* large parts of the content are toxic and not something I (and others) wish
14 > > Gentoo to be associated with
15 > >* it caters to a set of users somewhat distinct from the rest of the forums
16 > > (e.g., >5000 posts in OTW, <100 elsewhere)
17 > >* forum moderators have made clear they are not going to fulfill their roles
18 > > (e.g., regarding the code of conduct) in OTW, following a similar discussion
19 > > one year ago
20 > >
21 > >This leaves us with two options:
22 > >
23 > >1) shut down OTW
24 > >or
25 > >2) replace or supplement forum moderators with people willing to fulfill the
26 > > moderator role in OTW
27 >
28 > I propose a third and fourth option here: Make it a privileged area, or split
29 > off to a Religion & Politics forum.
30 >
31
32 Hi, Aaron.
33
34 We (Gentoo), via the council, have somewhat made this happen by
35 restricting access to OTW for registered users only. There has been no
36 discussion over the user acknowledgement portion though.
37
38 Overall, I don't think this fits Gentoo. Please see my reply to Alec's
39 message. The content/subjects in OTW are not supportive of Gentoo in any
40 fashion. For me, this relates directly to the other projects, sponsors,
41 and donators that make Gentoo a reality. I do not believe any of these
42 individuals would support such content being paid for/hosted by donated
43 hardware/bandwidth/etc.
44
45 > Additionally, it makes the forum private so the topics therein won't come up in
46 > searches, but will still be publicly available. This should minimize non-Gentoo
47 > user participation.
48 >
49
50 This happened. See above.
51
52 --
53 Cheers,
54 Aaron

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