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On 06-08-2011 11:00:16 +0100, Markos Chandras wrote: |
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> Oh come on Jorge. You know what I mean by slacking arches. I am not |
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> talking about punishing them. Maybe drop stable keywords or drop keyword |
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> from X package and shrink their tree so they can keep up with the load. |
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> > This should be the arch more developers use daily and is likely the |
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> > one with more members (herd count). Also, one should remember the |
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> > time it takes to compile, test or debug an issue in a recent amd64 |
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> > system or an old / slow box with an "exotic arch" varies |
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> > substantially. Not to mention that the amount of testing done on |
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> > "exotic arches" varies substantially between projects. |
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> I am aware of the problems and this is way I want a solution. |
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And what solution do you have in mind (in your Council role)? |
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> > In the last council, I've took the job of promoting some email |
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> > threads between arch teams, the council, trustees and infra to see |
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> > what we could do about it. Some of the issues were then opened on the |
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> > project ml. You are correct that there wasn't a "quick", "final" or |
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> > even "conclusive" decision, but I'll argue that we needed more debate |
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> > - including more interest and participation from the community. I do |
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> > think we had a good discussion. |
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> Yes, we discussed what was needed etc but I don't really think that |
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> anything changed since them. If not, then I apologize |
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What would you have seen changed that the Council can influence upon? |
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> > If the argument in the end boils down to how many arches Gentoo |
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> > supports and about leaving support for some arches or killing it so |
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> > that maintainers aren't "bogged down" by arches, I'll support arches |
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> > over maintainers. |
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> I never said to completely drop these arches. When did I say that? I |
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> just want a more realistic approach on how well an arch is supported. |
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> Why you people are afraid to admit that we have problems? Having an arch |
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> with constantly >200 stabilization bugs open clearly proves that the |
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> manpower cannot handle the situation. |
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How do you suggest the Council to solve this issue and, as you indicated |
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before, right now? |
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Fabian Groffen |
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Gentoo on a different level |
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