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Ciaran McCreesh wrote: |
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> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:31:38 +0000 |
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> Steve Long <slong@××××××××××××××××××.uk> wrote: |
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>> I agree that the EAPI is not fixed until it's agreed and implemented |
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>> by portage. The PMS thing seems extraneous to Gentoo needs atm; it's |
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>> more to enable other projects to interoperate with the tree. It |
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>> certainly wasn't needed for pkgcore imo. |
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> Erm. You need to learn the relationship between EAPI and PMS. |
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> PMS describes EAPIs 0 and 1, and will describe any future EAPIs once |
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> they're agreed upon. |
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It does a bit more than that. And like I said, that's extraneous to Gentoo |
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needs, and is in fact only really needed for Paludis, not pkgcore and |
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certainly not portage development. |
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The last Council made that clear when they took the PMS in-house due to the |
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lack of progress: |
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<wolf31o2|work> Gentoo has no need for a PMS if we're only supporting |
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portage... it was written pretty much exclusively to allow external package |
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managers to be on the same page as portage |
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<kingtaco|work> it's possible that any PMS is of primary use for external |
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projects and perhaps we don't need to involve ourselves |
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<robbat2> i see the goal of PMS as allowing external PMs to be supported in |
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Gentoo |
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I wonder how far you'd get with trying to, say, supplant rpm in RedHat, or |
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apt in debian. Surely they must be crying out for a next-gen PM? Oh yeah, |
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you need the Gentoo devs to maintain ebuilds or paludis won't work. |
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<kingtaco|work> no, the discussion on -dev ml defines eapi bumps |
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Having a spec isn't an issue: the issue is having it developed as a |
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mainstream Gentoo project, with open discussion. Frankly you're not very |
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good at that, in so far as your manner does not invite discussion; you've |
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made it quite clear that you think many of the devs (whose work your |
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project relies on), let alone the users, are "idiots". |
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