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On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 21:01 +0100, Steve Long wrote: |
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> Alon Bar-Lev wrote: |
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> > There are few brutal developers here that make Gentoo a terrible place |
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> > to be. |
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IMHO the world is what you make it. While I am not saying we don't have |
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devs that make life harder for others. Which I myself at times might |
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fall into that category. At the end of the day, we only have control and |
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influence over ourselves. Of any conflict I have with anyone, I always |
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put at least 50% or more of the blame on me. Putting it solely on them |
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makes me powerless to correct things. |
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In this situation, I am not saying it's all others, or all Alon, but |
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more 50/50. From the other side, I personally and some others on the |
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Java team. Had some harsh interactions with Alon when he was a user. |
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Because of such I wasn't to happy about him becoming a dev. |
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Much less when as a user of seahorse, changes to the gnupg package |
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caused massive headaches for me. Which most any interaction with Alon |
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wasn't to friendly. Granted there was some past animosity there from |
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past interactions. |
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In the end allot of the gnupg "harshness" I am just as much to blame for |
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as Alon. But I can't say that Alon was the nicest person I met, and |
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agree 100% or at all with his comments. It very well others could have |
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been reacting in kind. |
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This also could have allot to do with cultural differences. Which even |
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though we all communicate in English. Most of us don't live in areas |
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where that's the native language ( obviously not speaking of myself ). |
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So at times, tension can surely be a result of translations. Words being |
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used, maybe not the best ones, or accurately expressing ones feelings. |
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Or politely even. |
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Anyway, I respect Alon's view and reasons for leaving Gentoo. I just |
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would hope there would have been a bit more self reflection. Which is |
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something I try to do allot. There have been several times I have been a |
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jerk, and lacked tact in my actions, comments, etc. But I do try to at |
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least acknowledge that, apologize, and if possible make up for any of my |
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actions. |
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I am not trying to dump all the blame on Alon, but since his email |
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seemed to exclude him from any. Plus others comments, which I was trying |
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to hold back myself. I felt I need to put out some additional info. |
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Always two sides to any story, and at times, more than that :) |
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It sad to see any developer go, even if it's one I haven't always had a |
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great working relationship with. Alon did contribute to Gentoo, and will |
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always be appreciated for that. Just would hope he or others, including |
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myself if/when the time comes, could have made a bit better exit from |
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grace :) |
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Off to write my multi-volume novel ;) j/k |
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William L. Thomson Jr. |
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amd64/Java/Trustees |
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Gentoo Foundation |