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From: Matt Turner <mattst88@g.o>
Subject: Re: Council discuss: overlapping council terms of two years
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 11:53:14 -0400
On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o> wrote:
> On 08/06/2011 04:33 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o>
>> wrote:
>>> I never said to completely drop these arches. When did I say that?
>>> I just want a more realistic approach on how well an arch is
>>> supported. Why you people are afraid to admit that we have
>>> problems? Having an arch with constantly >200 stabilization bugs
>>> open clearly proves that the manpower cannot handle the situation.
>>
>> I think it's important to put some numbers on this.
>>
>> x86              80      2      13 amd64            40      1      7
>
> This is just hilarious :) The numbers of developers are not even close
> to reality

Same situation with the rest of the architectures, really.

>> The only architecture that is seriously backlogged in ppc, which is
>> probably due to the fact that we used to have lots of users. Just a
>> couple of weeks ago, ppc64 was in the same situation, until
>> xarthisius
>
> What if xarthisius, armin76, me and jer take 3 months off? What an evil
> scenario :). The problem is when an architecture relies on a *single*
> (or max 2) developers. You can't possibly claim that this architecture
> is supported. You have a single/double point of failure. They can easily
> retire someday or even lose their motivation. And then what? It would be
> far too late to act

We're in pretty bad shape if that happens.

We do have http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/infrastructure/dev-machines.xml

Maintainers could help arch teams greatly by giving their package a
quick test build on the development boxes. Not sure that's really an
acceptable solution though.

I wonder if we can't set up an automated system where a package
maintainer goes to a webpage and enters the package they'd like to
submit for a keyword request. The page would display the requirements
for each architecture, and the maintainer could then start a test
build that would run on the development boxes in a testing chroot, and
then give the results back to the maintainer. That would certainly
make the situation simpler for everyone.

Maybe that's deserving of a separation thread.

Matt


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