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From: Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o>
Subject: Re: Should DevRel members be in Council?
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 14:42:26 +0100
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On 08/14/2011 02:14 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote:
> Markos Chandras schrieb:
>> On 08/14/2011 01:19 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote:
>>> Markos Chandras schrieb:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> This is the second item I would like to discuss for the next 
>>>> Council agenda ( or a later one )
>>>> 
>>>> Quite a few of you know that Council acts as a court in case a 
>>>> developer has unresolved disputes with Devrel or when he is
>>>> not happy with a Devrel's decision. The problem is that having
>>>> the same people in the Council and in Devrel makes no sense
>>>> since the same people will vote twice on that matter. A
>>>> developer who wants to appeal to Council, seeks a review of his
>>>> case and a fresh voting from new people. However, having devrel
>>>> members, which are already biased based on the previous
>>>> decision, makes the "Council's court role" a moot role :)
>> 
>>> I have to ask the same here as for the other proposal:
>> 
>>> Why do you restrict your proposal to a specific project? The
>>> issue you are pointing at is the same for any other project,
>>> where someone does open an appeal to council to vote on a team
>>> decision he does not want to accept.
>> 
>> I don't follow. I thought disputes were handled this way
>> 
>> 1) Contact the guy and resolve the issue with him without bothering
>> the rest of team members 2) Ask team lead 3) Ask devrel 4) Ask
>> Council
>> 
>> There is no way to go from 2->4 without devrel's involvement.
> 
> So lets try with an example:
> 
> A dev wants to join the Sunrise project and i as the lead say no to
> him.
> 
> This means, both 1 and 2 are already done, 3 does not seem reasonable
> to me, since it looks unlikely to me, that DevRel could/should force
> a team to accept a new member, which would end with the last point.
> And if both sides keep their point, council could either force his
> addition, which will usually mean, that the team lead leaves or
> accept the decision of the team lead.
> 
> 
I don't think Council is eligible to force this. The council is not
supposed to interfere with how teams operate.

- -- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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