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From: Thomas Sachau <tommy@g.o>
Subject: Re: Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-12-13
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 16:42:26 +0100
Fabian Groffen schrieb:
> On 04-12-2011 15:17:28 +0100, Thomas Sachau wrote:
>> 1. Should the change of quiet build default in recent portage versions
>> be reverted?
>>
>> The timeframe between suggestion and implementation was less than 14
>> hours, so way too less time for a real discussion. Additionally, the
>> discussion following the change has shown, that there is no consensus
>> about this change neither for developers nor for users. So i would like
>> to see this reverted, at least until we get to a consensus at this topic
>> in which case the consensus result should be implemented.
> 
> Ok, you mean the --quiet-build=y default that most recent Portage uses,
> right?  Also known to some as the parallel build output.

Yes

> 
>> 2. Should the default output of portage be changed to quiet?
>>
>> If yes, is a simple portage message for 2.1.* users enough to inform
>> users about this highly visible change? Especially in the context in
>> mind, that a good amount of packages have elog messages, so it is pretty
>> easy to miss this hint for a change in portage behaviour.
> 
> You suggest a news item here?  Or do you want Portage in quiet mode to
> print elog messages?  (If I'm not mistaken, it already does.)
> 
> 

If this does not get reverted and if it gets accepted to be the default,
i would request a news item, when it goes into a stable version of
portage, since a good amount of people wondered, why the portage output
changed (default for --quiet-build was changed), why it was done and how
they could change that behaviour.

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