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From: "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <jmbsvicetto@g.o>
Subject: Re: Should DevRel members be in Council?
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 01:09:46 +0000
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On 14-08-2011 11:12, Markos Chandras wrote:
> Hi,
> This is the second item I would like to discuss for the next Council 
> agenda ( or a later one )
> Quite a few of you know that Council acts as a court in case a
> developer has unresolved disputes with Devrel or when he is not happy
> with a Devrel's decision. The problem is that having the same people
> in the Council and in Devrel makes no sense since the same people
> will vote twice on that matter. A developer who wants to appeal to
> Council, seeks a review of his case and a fresh voting from new
> people. However, having devrel members, which are already biased
> based on the previous decision, makes the "Council's court role" a
> moot role :)
> Again, this is just a brainstorming, so please let me know what you
> think.

Yes, we should have no rules preventing DevRel members from running to
and or serve in the Council. Furthermore, to address this type of
concerns, in every Council election the table of candidates has a column
for DevRel members, current Council members and Trustees[1]. So it's up
to the developer community to decide if they want a particular
candidate, DevRel member or not, to serve in the Council.
Also, the Council serves as an "appeal body"[2], not a "trial court"[3].
To address some of the suggestions on this thread, my opinion is that
DevRel is the body with disciplinary oversight over developers and that
Council should restrict itself to appeals. In my view, by having direct
intervention, the Council would limit itself and prevent any chance of
an appeal.
In addition, "trial by popularity" is always a bad idea and as others
have stated, council members are frequently elected for dealing with
technical issues and are not or may not have the required skill set to
deal with disciplinary issues.

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