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From: Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council appointed leaders for QA and DevRel
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 16:28:23
Message-Id: 4E4BEBB5.8090300@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Council appointed leaders for QA and DevRel by Rich Freeman
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4 On 14/08/2011 12:35 μμ, Rich Freeman wrote:
5 > On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Markos Chandras
6 > <hwoarang@g.o> wrote:
7 >> Some time ago, few people proposed to have Council appointed
8 >> leaders for QA and DevRel. I like the idea because this way the
9 >> Council can ensure that the team is active or either force some
10 >> activity in case the current leader slacks big time.
11 >
12
13 Well, to be honest, I have no clear understanding of what you guys think
14 about this problem. From what I gathered, it seems to me that we need to
15 establish a process to identify dead/slacking projects and then have the
16 appropriate mechanism within the council to deal with it.
17
18 Having all the project sending a "ping" e-mail to council is not a
19 solution. Having a bunch of people monitoring all the projects is not
20 good either.
21
22 What I propose, is to compile a list with projects that are known to be
23 dead, and give them a final warning or verify their "dead" status. After
24 that, their broken package shall be removed, and the rest of them can
25 remain as maintainer-needed@. 2-3 developers can take care of the
26 removals. It is not a big deal.
27
28 Personally, I want to shrink portage. There is no way for 250 listed
29 developers ( I would be glad if 100 of us were really active ) to
30 maintain thousands of ebuilds. I have already said that many many times
31 and I will say it again. We need to stop pretending that everything is
32 fine. We need to support only the packages that we can *really* support
33 and lets hope that more people will join in when they see their packages
34 going away.
35
36 I think this is quite honest not just to our selves but to our users as
37 well. If we keep stalling, then heavy committers will probably get
38 demotivated ( by trying to keep everything working ) and Gentoo will
39 slowly die or portage will become unmanageable.
40
41 - --
42 Regards,
43 Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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