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Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: |
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> On Jan 23, 2008 7:23 PM, Steve Long <slong@××××××××××××××××××.uk> wrote: |
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>> Wulf C. Krueger wrote: |
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>> > On Monday, 21. January 2008 19:19:12 Steve Long wrote: |
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>> >> And when 90% say they don't like the way they get treated by Gentoo |
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>> >> devs, there is a real issue. |
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>> > "The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with |
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>> > the average voter." - Winston Churchill |
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>> > s/voter/user/ |
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>> Churchill also said democracy is the worst form of government: apart from |
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>> all the others. |
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>> He also questioned why anyone should worry about Arabs being gassed in |
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>> Mesopotamia, so maybe you can just speak for yourself; would you prefer |
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>> to live under Saddam, Amin or Hitler than a democratic government? |
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> These statements on governance are completely irrelevant here. |
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Er I didn't bring them up. TBH it was only an aside to the main issue of how |
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to involve users. The rest of the discussion has in fact been about |
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governance, so I am puzzled that you think it "completely irrelevant." |
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> They |
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> apply to large countries with populations in (at least) millions. For |
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> small communities of several thousand (very small countries ie), |
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> direct democracy works best. But even that is not relevant here, since |
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> the responsibilities of a country's leaders are very different from |
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> the "responsibilities" of a volunteer-run organisation. |
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In your opinion: others clearly feel it relevant. |
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> `Responsibilities` is in quotes because you cannot really "police" an |
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> organisation that works for free in it's free time. |
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Hmm and there's no such thing as forum moderators or irc ops? |
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> Hence, a combination of meritocracy and democracy is the best way to |
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> run these. |
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I'm fine with both. |
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> The basic tenants of democracy of "equality" and "freedom" |
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> have no meaning whatsoever in this context. |
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Again, in your opinion. How can the "basic tenants of democracy" have |
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nothing do with it if one is using "a combination of meritocracy and |
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democracy"? |
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> In fact, I'm tempted to invoke Godwin's Law at this point. |
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puhleez. |
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> This is a *completely* different situation, and one simply cannot make |
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> generalisations such as you have. |
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I didn't; you inferred and generalised an awful lot all on your own ;) |
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