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From: Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o>
Subject: Re: Council discuss: overlapping council terms of two years
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:01:02 +0100
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On 08/05/2011 11:49 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> On 05-08-2011 11:33:52 +0100, Markos Chandras wrote:
>>> A smaller committee for a chief technical officer fits better
>>> into a normal corporate structure. A smaller council could form
>>> special interest groups to address individual problems so nothing
>>> would be lost from the reduced numbers.
>>> 
>> FWIW, I support Donnie's idea. I would like to see a smaller and
>> more flexible Council which could assign tasks to interested
>> parties. Right now, it takes 3-4 months (that is 3-4 meetings) for
>> a Council to decide things and make substantial progress where
>> other distributions are moving faster by having a single developer
>> or a small group leading the project. In my point of view, we need
>> to consider a fundamental change to our organizational structure.
>> Roy's ideas are very interesting, however we need to decide on an
>> abstract design before we dig into the details.
> 
> You really don't think the effectiveness of Council meetings should
> be improved, instead of just reducing the number of members and 
> responsibilties, such that just one person is responsible for a 
> decision?
> 

This is possible up to a point. But having 7 people around makes it hard
to maintain an effectiveness/short meeting ratio. In this case, things
have to be discussed (and possibly decided) in advanced.

> I am against the idea of having single people being able to easily
> make (possibly totally unfunded) decisions that affect Gentoo full
> project wide.
> 
I wonder why this works so well for other distros.

> On the other hand, Council members should discuss much more on
> lists, prior to meetings, ultimately resolving/deciding issues
> already before any meeting takes place.  I see no direct need for
> centralised meetings at all to discuss on many topics.  Voting could
> happen on a ML as good as on IRC.
> 

I agree. The discussion should start on the next day of the meeting and
not one week before the next one.

- -- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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