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From: Pandu Poluan <pandu@...>
Subject: Re: Council meeting: Tuesday 3 April 2012, 19:00 UTC
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 06:59:36 +0700
<p><br>
On Mar 28, 2012 6:23 AM, &quot;Joshua Kinard&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:kumba@g.o">kumba@g.o</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On 03/27/2012 12:23, Zac Medico wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; 2b) If one does not want to use an initramfs, one must use mdev<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I&#39;d leave option 2b undocumented. It&#39;s fragile and it will only work up<br>
&gt; &gt; until something else breaks, and then we&#39;ll have another big &quot;OMG they&#39;re<br>
&gt; &gt; forcing us to use an initramfs&quot; discussion and have to update the<br>
&gt; &gt; documentation again.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Not undocumented, but with a link to this Wiki entry:<br>
&gt; <a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Mdev">https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Mdev</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; And a BIG FAT WARNING that it&#39;s risky, and only suitable for extremely<br>
&gt; simple system builds.  It works fine for me on my main dev box and a VM.<br>
&gt; I&#39;ll know how it works on MIPS when I get that machine properly updated.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Doesn&#39;t mean it&#39;ll work for everyone, but we&#39;re about choice, and we should<br>
&gt; at least put a mention in, even if it&#39;s a choice that will be rarely taken.<br>
&gt;</p>
<p>&quot;Simple&quot; is relative. I tend to say &quot;non-exotic&quot;.</p>
<p>mdev is perfectly usable on my virtualized servers, whose devices are both non-exotic (from the VM&#39;s point of view) and static.</p>
<p>Just recently, I polled the server mailing list, and while there&#39;s no clear consensus, there are responders don&#39;t like option 2a because it involves an initramfs.</p>
<p>But the essence is exactly what Joshua wrote in his last paragraph: it&#39;s about choice. The user&#39;s (or sysadmin&#39;s) choice.</p>
<p>Rgds,<br>
</p>
References:
Council meeting: Tuesday 3 April 2012, 19:00 UTC
-- Ulrich Mueller
Re: Council meeting: Tuesday 3 April 2012, 19:00 UTC
-- Sven Vermeulen
Re: Council meeting: Tuesday 3 April 2012, 19:00 UTC
-- Pandu Poluan
Re: Council meeting: Tuesday 3 April 2012, 19:00 UTC
-- Zac Medico
Re: Council meeting: Tuesday 3 April 2012, 19:00 UTC
-- Joshua Kinard
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