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From: AllenJB <gentoo-lists@...>
Subject: Re: Stabilization process addition: Announcements about required manual intervention
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:19:22 +0000
...Which isn't stable yet, so stable users won't see them... if there 
even were any news items (I'm using portage 2.2, just sync'd and there 
are no news items listed).

I was aware of GLEP 42 but it's one of those things that seems to have 
existed in some form since I started using Gentoo several years ago and 
has never been implemented.

Given that it's apparently already in testing, when will developers 
start using this system? (And how will it be known if there are any 
issues with it if it hasn't been used on the live tree before 2.1.6 goes 
stable?)

And who is going to make sure that developers are using it to keep users 
informed of (potential) issues?

Also, will news items be posted to a web page, forum or mailing list in 
addition so that they can be easily linked to from forums / irc / 
mailing lists and users can see issues coming in advance if they don't 
sync particularly frequently?

AllenJB

Zac Medico wrote:
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> AllenJB wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I would like to suggest that as part of the stabilization process,
>> developers are required to (get PR to) make an announcement about any
>> manual intervention that (might be) required on a stable system.
>>
>> At the moment, this would include most blocks (eg. the recent e2fsprogs
>> block) and issues such as the firefox/xulrunner use flag issue.
>>
>> These announcements should appear on the gentoo.org front page,
>> gentoo-announce list and the announcements forum.
>>
>> The announcement should appear before the first (affected) architecture
>> stabilizes the package.
>>
>> I think this would help alleviate the load of those helping in the
>> forums, irc and mailing lists as well as probably reduce the number of
>> unnecessarily created bugs.
>>
>> Obviously the need for these announcements will be drastically reduced
>> with the stabilization of portage 2.1.6 / 2.2, but I suspect there will
>> still be things which they can not handle automatically.
>>
>> AllenJB
>>
>>
> 
> You can use GLEP 42 news items which are supported with portage-2.1.6:
> 
>   http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0042.html
> - --
> Thanks,
> Zac
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Re: Stabilization process addition: Announcements about required manual intervention
-- Alec Warner
Re: Stabilization process addition: Announcements about required manual intervention
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