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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Manifest signing
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:49:14
Message-Id: CAGfcS_mYwYTpqqQuYvcvF6cUE1_iQb7npKcqMnzz13hx9Gkxvw@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Manifest signing by Patrick Lauer
1 On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o> wrote:
2 > Otherwise some funny person will use a 4-bit key that expires tomorrow
3 > just to point out the missing details ...
4 >
5
6 <div mode=rant>
7 I think this is becoming a big problem with Gentoo. There is
8 something to be said for planning, but I think we have a tendency to
9 bikeshed things to death before we do ANYTHING.
10
11 All because when somebody goes and uses a 4-bit key we feel some kind
12 of paralysis about taking action. People that take obvious steps to
13 skirt policies should simply be disciplined. I'm not talking about
14 the guy with an old 512-bit key or whatever, or people that change
15 after being asked nicely to do so. When it is obvious that people are
16 just messing with the distro to prove a point then they are excluding
17 themselves from the community.
18
19 We allow ourselves to be held hostage to anybody who can find a
20 loophole in the rules, and that just leads to 40 bazillion rules and
21 refusal to move forward until we have at least 50 rules to start with.
22 If a rule is stupid just say it. If you think a council member who
23 voted for it is stupid, be polite but call them on it. What we don't
24 do is just ignore the rules, or try to end-run them.
25 </div>
26
27 I'd just encourage the council to not wait for the perfect
28 specification to move forward with this or anything else. I applaud
29 efforts like PMS and I think they add value. However, specs/rules are
30 a tool to serve the community, and not enslave us.
31
32 Why not just keep this simple:
33 1. Key >= 1024 bits.
34 2. Validity >= 6 months.
35 3. Signature readable by stable gpg in tree.
36
37 Rich