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From: Dale <dalek1967@×××××××××.net>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Re: Re: Plan, then communicate (no-list)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:39:10
Message-Id: 47976D02.5070103@bellsouth.net
In Reply to: [gentoo-project] Re: Re: Re: Plan, then communicate (no-list) by Steve Long
1 Steve Long wrote:
2 > Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
3 >
4 >
5 >> On Jan 23, 2008 7:23 PM, Steve Long <slong@××××××××××××××××××.uk> wrote:
6 >>
7 >>> Wulf C. Krueger wrote:
8 >>>
9 >>>
10 >>>> On Monday, 21. January 2008 19:19:12 Steve Long wrote:
11 >>>>
12 >>>>> And when 90% say they don't like the way they get treated by Gentoo
13 >>>>> devs, there is a real issue.
14 >>>>>
15 >>>> "The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with
16 >>>> the average voter." - Winston Churchill
17 >>>>
18 >>>> s/voter/user/
19 >>>>
20 >>>>
21 >>> Churchill also said democracy is the worst form of government: apart from
22 >>> all the others.
23 >>>
24 >>> He also questioned why anyone should worry about Arabs being gassed in
25 >>> Mesopotamia, so maybe you can just speak for yourself; would you prefer
26 >>> to live under Saddam, Amin or Hitler than a democratic government?
27 >>>
28 >> These statements on governance are completely irrelevant here.
29 >>
30 > Er I didn't bring them up. TBH it was only an aside to the main issue of how
31 > to involve users. The rest of the discussion has in fact been about
32 > governance, so I am puzzled that you think it "completely irrelevant."
33 >
34 >
35 >> They
36 >> apply to large countries with populations in (at least) millions. For
37 >> small communities of several thousand (very small countries ie),
38 >> direct democracy works best. But even that is not relevant here, since
39 >> the responsibilities of a country's leaders are very different from
40 >> the "responsibilities" of a volunteer-run organisation.
41 >>
42 > In your opinion: others clearly feel it relevant.
43 >
44
45 I agree. +1
46
47 >
48 >> `Responsibilities` is in quotes because you cannot really "police" an
49 >> organisation that works for free in it's free time.
50 >>
51 >>
52 > Hmm and there's no such thing as forum moderators or irc ops?
53 >
54
55 Any organization larger than a few must have rules and some "police"
56 enforcement.
57
58
59 > < SNIP >
60
61
62 Dale
63
64 :-) :-)