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From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o>
Subject: Re: Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-12-13
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:46:09 -0500
On Monday 05 December 2011 17:13:26 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
> Mike Frysinger schrieb:
> >> Not all failures are errors, only errors are shown
> > 
> > all failures as characterized by "ebuild called `die`" get shown --
> > portage dumps the entire log, thus your need to copy & paste the log
> > file to `cat` is garbage.
> > 
> > all "failures" that don't result in an aborted build (e.g. EAPI=0 dodoc
> > on missing file) will get "missed".  many of those are logged as QA
> > warnings, but it seems default --quiet-build=y will not include these in
> > the log summary. this might be useful to fix -- i'll poke Zac about it
> > if he doesn't see this e- mail.
> > 
> > otherwise, your statement is really way too zen to get anything
> > meaningful out of it.  post actual examples of what you're talking
> > about.
> 
> Attached you will find a build.log of trying to build cdrtools on
> sparc-solaris prefix. Admittedly a bit exotic, but far from unique
> incident.
> 
> A moderately knowledgeable user would notice that something is wrong
> from watching the build output for a couple of seconds. Portage however
> proceeds happily because make returns exit status 0.

portage would always proceed.  the only thing that would stop it is the user 
hitting CTRL+C.  and that requires the user actually be watching the build 
output.  perhaps they would be for a single package, but for general upgrades, 
i doubt you can rely on that.  what would be more likely is they try to run 
`cdrecord`, find it missing, find the build failed, and then file a bug.  that 
workflow really isn't affected by the defaults here.
-mike
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