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From: Ferris McCormick <fmccor@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 01:37:53
Message-Id: 20080606013721.06a5c36f@anaconda.krait.us
In Reply to: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009 by Roy Bamford
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5 Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o> wrote:
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10 > On 2008.06.05 01:00, Ɓukasz Damentko wrote:
11 > > Hi guys,
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13 > > Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009 are open now and will be
14 > > open for the next two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2008).
15 >
16 > Team,
17 >
18 > I don't want to nominate anyone who hasn't been nominated already.
19 > I would like to address all the candidates who have or will accept
20 > council nominations.
21 >
22 > 1. Please tell us how/if you plan to fix GLEP 39. (You may not consider
23 > it broken)
24 >
25 Mostly it's not broken. However, I think the intent of the rule
26 "If any meeting has less than 50% attendance by council members,..."
27 is to prevent the council from meeting without a quorum. If at a
28 meeting they don't have a quorum and thus don't meet, I'd consider that
29 to be a non-meeting and treat those who did not make it just as "absent"
30 under normal meeting rules.
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32 > 2. As one of the first priorities will be setting policy for pending
33 > appeals what policy do you propose ?
34 >
35 Any developer making an appeal would explain why the appeal should be
36 successful using any information he chooses, then Council would decide
37 (deny, grant on the merits, grant on procedural grounds, whatever).
38 I'd also add two new requirements:
39 1. Any appeal must be heard and decided within xxx days;
40 2. Any Council member who is on record as to the merits of the action
41 being appealed could not take part in the appeal process unless the
42 developer making the appeal allows it. Probably this would mean a
43 discussion between that developer and the Council.
44 Of course Council members have opinions of devrel actions, but I think
45 it creates a potential conflict of interest if they broadcast them.
46 > 3. If you are not on the council already, how will you make time for
47 > the extra work?
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49 I already have the time, really. Although I am a member of several
50 projects in Gentoo, right now only Trustees require much time.
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52 > 4. How do you think the council and trustees can work together to make
53 > Gentoo better?
54 > Not just the code base but the cooperative environment we all work
55 > together in too.
56 > Disclosure - I have a personal interest in responses as a trustee.
57 >
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59 I'm already a trustee, so having a council member who is a trustee is
60 a start.
61 Trustees and Council together are responsible for the smooth working
62 of Gentoo, but with largely complementary areas of authority. So I
63 think the two groups should begin by looking for places they both can
64 usefully contribute and work to put cooperation there in place (Code
65 of Conduct comes to mind because it applies to the entire community
66 but Council is pretty much limited to developers). Then set out to
67 put such cooperation in place.
68 There's a lot of hand-waving in that statement because I don't have
69 any specific mechanism for carrying it out in mind.
70 Another idea is to sit down and look at just what Gentoo's business
71 model is. We know there is one because the Foundation owns things
72 like trademarks or funds (as it must because you have to have some
73 sort of legal entity in place to do that). But the Foundation is not
74 much involved directly in performing technical guidance, say (although
75 I can think of cases where it might be). I personally think it makes
76 sense to look at bringing the two closer together to look more like a
77 traditional business (although this is perhaps a minority view). For
78 our continued health I think we have to work toward this goal.
79 > 5. Tell us a little about yourself - the skills and experience you can
80 > bring to the council?
81 >
82 I've been around for a long time in the business world as a developer,
83 manager, and lawyer. (I might actually be Gentoo's oldest
84 developer.)
85 I've been a Gentoo developer for a bit more than 4 years. In
86 Gentoo I'm sparc (architecture) lead, a trustee, and a member of devrel
87 and userrel. I am no longer all that strong technically, but
88 I think I have a pretty good feel for how the software development
89 process works. And both within Gentoo and in the real world I have
90 spent a lot of time working with people in areas like mediation or
91 management. So I guess I'd say I'm a "people oriented" person with a
92 reasonable understanding of the development process, but certainly not
93 Gentoo's strongest technical person.
94 > 6. Tell us one outstanding (in your own mind) contribution you made to
95 > Gentoo in the last year.
96 >
97 I am happiest with my part in making the Foundation legal
98 again. I was elected sparc lead and elected to the trustees, but I
99 hardly view those as contributions.
100 > Any candidate who does not have time/interest to prepare a manifesto
101 > addressing the above and anything else they want to say to the
102 > electorate will have a hard time convincing me that they have the time/
103 > interest to undertake the duties of a council member.
104 >
105 > I look forward to seeing links to your manifestos on
106 > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/voting-logs/council-2008-
107 > nominees.xml
108 >
109 >
110 I'll provide a link in the next week or so. Most likely to a link to a
111 text file in d.g.o/~fmccor/
112 > - --
113 > Regards,
114 >
115 > Roy Bamford
116 > (NeddySeagoon) a member of
117 > gentoo-ops
118 > forum-mods
119 > treecleaners
120 > trustees
121 >
122 > For the avoidance of doubt, I write as an individual developer and not
123 > on behalf of any project I may be a member of.
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135 Hope this helps,
136 Regards,
137 Ferris
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140 Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) <fmccor@g.o>
141 Developer, Gentoo Linux (Sparc, Devrel, Userrel, Trustees)
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