On 08:58 Fri 05 Aug , Fabian Groffen wrote:
> On 04-08-2011 13:08:06 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > On 18:15 Tue 02 Aug , Fabian Groffen wrote:
> > > I think yes, if the council regarding GLEP39 thinks A, but the dev
> > > population B, then it is unlikely the council will vote for B.
> > > However, the dev population should vote for other council members
> > > that do support B for the next term in that case.
> > I think the whole idea is rather absurd that the council could
> > disagree with a change to GLEP 39 and thus prevent it from going to
> > a developer-wide vote, even though they don't think they have the
> > authority to change the GLEP.
> Let me try to put it different:
> The assumption that the council has to vote for GLEP39, perhaps is
> wrong. Would it make more sense when the council would suggest the
> changes for GLEP39 and have the dev community vote on acceptance?
> Beforehand, the council then -- internally -- has to vote if they
> agree on the changes being put forward to the dev community. I think
> there should be a majority vote among the council members before such
> proposal is sent out for a dev vote.
I still don't like it. I think that anyone should be able to submit
things to a developer-wide vote if desired, regardless of whether a
council majority supports it. I suppose maybe I would be OK with having
at least one council "sponsor" for the vote, but I hate the idea of the
council having a pre-vote veto on any idea they don't like that changes
how they operate.
Let's say I propose an idea that 80% of the council likes but 80% of
developers want. This doesn't seem unreasonable since I was very highly
ranked in voting with a platform that involves totally changing our
leadership structure, and yet the council insists it cannot change GLEP
39. I would be pretty pissed if most of Gentoo wanted something but the
"cabal" at the top didn't even let them make the choice.
I would be OK with the council having a nonbinding vote on the matter
prior to an all-dev vote just so everybody knows where they stand, but I
think the matter should go to a full vote regardless of the results.
Council Member / Sr. Developer