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From: Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2012-05-08
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:03:38
Message-Id: 4F9A6828.9040302@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2012-05-08 by Fabian Groffen
1 On 04/27/2012 12:13 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
2 > In my humble opinion, the essential bit missing here, is where both
3 > camps respect each other. That is, not to make it impossible for either
4 > camp to follow their vision.
5 > I've made suggestions for this in the last council meeting. The options
6 > we have as Gentoo -- a remarkable flexible and well controllable
7 > source-based distribution -- are numerous. We can have special
8 > profiles, introduce new USE-flags, etc.
9 >
10 > So far, the discussion has indicated not more than a shift of programs
11 > from / to /usr. This, IMO, should be controlled by a profile/use-flag
12 > setting. That is, gen_usr_ldscript should NOT go, but rather stay, and
13 > just do nothing if the user is following the GnomeOS vision.
14
15 Has anybody created an antithetical document to "The Case for the /usr
16 Merge"? It could be called "The Case Against the /usr Merge", and it
17 would be useful to have such a document in order to justify support of
18 the special profiles and USE-flags that you propose.
19
20 There is an obvious demand to provide a way forward for Gentoo's
21 installed base of separate-/usr-without-initramfs systems, but using
22 your proposed profiles and USE-flags as the way forward seems like
23 overkill in comparison to the simple alternatives that exist:
24
25 Alternative 1: Don't install /usr on a separate partition
26 Alternative 2: Mount /usr early with an initramfs
27
28 So, if we're going to move forward with your proposed profiles and
29 USE-flags, then let's create a document to justify it.
30 --
31 Thanks,
32 Zac