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On Sunday 04 December 2011 22:42:46 Patrick Lauer wrote: |
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> On 12/05/11 10:49, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> > On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Patrick Lauer wrote: |
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> >> And spend much more time trying to find them silly logfiles now that we |
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> >> hide the output. I really enjoy having to fix yet another bad default |
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> >> everywhere just so I see *why* things fail ... |
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> > Unless something has changed the logfile name including full path is |
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> > printed when there is an error. So, it is just a matter of copy/paste |
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> > into a cat and you can watch the whole thing scroll by and even |
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> > pretend it is compiling really fast while it is doing it. :) |
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> So one useless step added, which might give extra funny output because |
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> of escaped escape sequences and such funnies, with no benefit for me |
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uhh, no. cat on the log files works perfectly fine in any sane terminal. |
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> > It seems like a pretty sane default to assume that most packaged build |
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> > without issues - after all, that is basically the goal, right? |
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> And for those I don't care about the output at all, but when things fail |
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> I want to see it. |
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it's hard to have a conversation when you don't even verify your statements. |
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when a build fails, it outputs the entire log. thus your statement here makes |
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no sense at all. |
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> So for me the proper default is "show everything, let me ignore what I |
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> don't want" |
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then change your defaults |
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-mike |