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From: Richard Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Usage of our mailing lists - to cross post or not?
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 02:34:49
Message-Id: 4C43B9A2.5090000@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Usage of our mailing lists - to cross post or not? by "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto"
1 On 07/18/2010 06:03 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
2 > On 18-07-2010 20:26, Petteri Räty wrote:
3 >> I propose we add a statement to our list FAQ to ban cross posting the
4 >> reason being that it leads to fragmentation of the thread when some
5 >> people reply on one list and some on the other (and they aren't required
6 >> to be subscribed to both).
7
8 ++
9
10 >
11 > I can live with the cross-posting, in particular if it makes easier to
12 > find an old thread - if the council meeting threads were sent to both
13 > gentoo-council and gentoo-dev, it would certainly be easier to find it
14 > on gentoo-council archives than gentoo-dev's.
15
16 Why not just post it on gentoo-council? Anybody interested in the
17 discussion could participate there. The first message in the thread
18 could of course be posted to -dev-announce with follow-ups to the proper
19 list.
20
21 I've been reading this discussion now in three different lists,
22 illustrating the fragmentation problem.
23
24 For those who suggest a better mail reader - I'm all ears. My
25 requirements apparently are:
26
27 1. GUI - one that works with a mouse.
28 2. Basic editing functionality (spell check, re-wrapping, etc), with
29 all functions accessible via the GUI.
30 3. Handles threads split across two different lists with not all
31 replies being cross-posted to all lists, turning them into a cohesive
32 discussion.
33 4. Otherwise, doesn't mix up stuff from multiple lists.
34 5. Does all of this in spite of the fact that procmail is set to
35 mercilessly destroy anything with a duplicate message ID before the mail
36 client even sees it. Alternatively, mail client must handle when I get
37 the same email 5 times via 5 different email addresses that were all
38 CC'ed so that procmail doesn't have to take care of it.
39
40 Of course, not cross-posting like mad lets me cross off #3 and #5,
41 meaning that just about anything out there works.
42
43 I'm not aware of a mail reader that meets these requirements... Frankly
44 I'd be happy to just follow the discussion on gmane except that even
45 most news readers can't handle this sort of mess.
46
47 If devs want to follow what the council is doing, they should subscribe
48 to -council. If devs want to have input on big policy changes that
49 aren't strictly coding related they can follow -project. Of course, no
50 matter what lists they follow the important stuff can go on
51 -dev-announce first.
52
53 Just my two cents... Obviously I've been putting up with this sort of
54 thing for years, so this is hardly going to be the thing that drives me
55 over the edge... :)
56
57 Rich

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