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From: Richard Freeman <rich0@g.o>
Subject: Re: Usage of our mailing lists - to cross post or not?
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 22:34:10 -0400
On 07/18/2010 06:03 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> On 18-07-2010 20:26, Petteri Räty wrote:
>> I propose we add a statement to our list FAQ to ban cross posting the
>> reason being that it leads to fragmentation of the thread when some
>> people reply on one list and some on the other (and they aren't required
>> to be subscribed to both).

++

>
> I can live with the cross-posting, in particular if it makes easier to
> find an old thread - if the council meeting threads were sent to both
> gentoo-council and gentoo-dev, it would certainly be easier to find it
> on gentoo-council archives than gentoo-dev's.

Why not just post it on gentoo-council?  Anybody interested in the 
discussion could participate there.  The first message in the thread 
could of course be posted to -dev-announce with follow-ups to the proper 
list.

I've been reading this discussion now in three different lists, 
illustrating the fragmentation problem.

For those who suggest a better mail reader - I'm all ears.  My 
requirements apparently are:

1.  GUI - one that works with a mouse.
2.  Basic editing functionality (spell check, re-wrapping, etc), with 
all functions accessible via the GUI.
3.  Handles threads split across two different lists with not all 
replies being cross-posted to all lists, turning them into a cohesive 
discussion.
4.  Otherwise, doesn't mix up stuff from multiple lists.
5.  Does all of this in spite of the fact that procmail is set to 
mercilessly destroy anything with a duplicate message ID before the mail 
client even sees it.  Alternatively, mail client must handle when I get 
the same email 5 times via 5 different email addresses that were all 
CC'ed so that procmail doesn't have to take care of it.

Of course, not cross-posting like mad lets me cross off #3 and #5, 
meaning that just about anything out there works.

I'm not aware of a mail reader that meets these requirements...  Frankly 
I'd be happy to just follow the discussion on gmane except that even 
most news readers can't handle this sort of mess.

If devs want to follow what the council is doing, they should subscribe 
to -council.  If devs want to have input on big policy changes that 
aren't strictly coding related they can follow -project.  Of course, no 
matter what lists they follow the important stuff can go on 
-dev-announce first.

Just my two cents...  Obviously I've been putting up with this sort of 
thing for years, so this is hardly going to be the thing that drives me 
over the edge...  :)

Rich


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