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From: "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <hkBst@g.o>
To: "Robin H. Johnson" <robbat2@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Spam reduction proposal - switching lists to a web-form for subscription
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 22:22:07
Message-Id: 4A1DBCB3.4010808@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Spam reduction proposal - switching lists to a web-form for subscription by "Robin H. Johnson"
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4 Robin H. Johnson wrote:
5 > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 01:45:24PM -0500, Dale wrote:
6 >> Is there something besides a captcha that can be used? I hate those
7 >> things because they make no sense to me. I usually just give up when I
8 >> encounter one of these and try three or four times with no success. The
9 >> ones that look like broken glass or something are the ones I don't even
10 >> try anymore. I can't get past one of those.
11 > recaptcha [1] is very common at this point, offloads the problem to an
12 > external service, supports visually-challenged users, and includes it's
13 > own detection of brute forcing from IP addresses and subnets.
14 >
15 > If that's not acceptable to you, I'll just deploy calculus-captcha.
16 > calculus-captcha is best viewed on this page here:
17 > http://random.irb.hr/signup.php
18 > (reload a few times to see the fun they had in qualifying questions).
19
20 The reCAPTCHA page mentions[1] that simple text recognition (with minimal
21 distortion) is easy to do with computer programs. Given that the
22 calculus-captcha are non-distorted LaTeX'ed formulas we should therefore
23 probably assume that computers can read those formulas. They only seem to have
24 very few kinds of questions (zeros of small polynomials, differentiation of some
25 trigonometric functions (only cos and sin), arithmetic), all of which are
26 extremely simple especially for a program[1]. If this CAPTCHA becomes widespread
27 someone WILL break it.
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29 On the other hand I like that reCAPTCHA puts your answers to use for automatic
30 digitizations of books. Unfortunately their "Stop spam, read books" message
31 doesn't make this very clear unless you already know.
32
33 Marijn
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35 [1]:http://recaptcha.net/captcha.html
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37 - --
38 If you cannot read my mind, then listen to what I say.
39
40 Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML
41 <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode
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