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Hi Gentoo- |
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My overall impression of Gentoo is "what a fantastic system"! I can't |
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believe how good, really. These are all fairly minor things. I'm new |
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to Gentoo, so forgive dumb ignorance, but Linux and programming are my |
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profession. |
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For your 2008.0 release: |
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The 2007.0~ppc branch fails to upgrade over a Bash / Portage block. So |
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will 2008.0 break too, until attended? A Bash / Portage conflict is the |
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worst possible. |
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I tried to fix it (from zsh chroot into Gentoo) but gave up. Stock |
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advice on FAQs does not work in this thorny case. Forums show |
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occasional situations between Python / Portage, too. |
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I do not want/ask your help, but only to share a thought: |
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Portage should have embedded Python and embedded Bash. Exactly the |
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versions it needs, with bare minimum required libraries, statically |
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compiled. |
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The Portage 'snapshot' is already a special install step. And Gentoo |
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already ships regular snapshots. The only thing missing is embedding |
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the dependencies directly. |
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I've never embedded Bash, but have Python, several times. Bash could |
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probably work too. The combined ELFs weigh around 2 MB total, not bad |
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for a critical executive controller like Portage which has its own |
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dedicated snapshots. |
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Finally - how about some recent stage3 ~arch tarballs. I can't find |
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any. Most distros do daily/weekly/monthly build snapshots. The only |
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snapshots for Gentoo seem to be Portage snapshots. Am I wrong? I know |
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the 2008.0 beta is due soon, but I mean on a continuous basis. Not |
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binary builds, just the latest ~arch tarball. If not frequent, at least |
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quarterly? |
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Normal ppc 2007.0 works fine from a dependency standpoint. The entire |
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reason for trying Gentoo is that ppc boxes need the absolute most |
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bleeding edge of everything. Hence the interest in Gentoo and |
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specifically ~arch. We also want the latest GNOME anyhow, plus |
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compiz-fusion. |
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Would it be best to wait a month until beta, or is it reasonable to |
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install ~arch right now? A few bugzilla contributions from us might |
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help the beta project but deadly bash/Portage conflicts are a little too |
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thick for my taste right now... |
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Thank you! |
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