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On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 14:51 -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: |
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> On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 14:27 -0500, solar wrote: |
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> > You cant really do a server profile so far nested within the |
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> > default-linux profiles. The flags will be just wrong. |
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> Have you verified this or are you just assuming? |
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took a quick peek and I know how default-linux is maintained. Stuff |
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gets added on a whim to upper levels. |
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> > Also a server is not something you should be switching profiles every 6 |
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> > months. |
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> This I definitely agree with, with the exception that I am specifically |
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> looking to create a profile set that *is* changed every release. The |
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> main difference here would be that profiles would be deprecated/removed |
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> at a *much* slower rate. |
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While I can semi agree with you here. If we do it. It should either be |
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a profile that does not change in terms of being deprecated unless |
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there is a real ABI change or one that is an annual profile. |
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> > If you are serious about a server profile I'd suggest dropping what you |
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> > are thinking now. Lets have a meeting (hardened + server + infra + |
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> > releng ) folks and do it right together. |
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> I'm not sure what either Infra or Hardened would have to do with |
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> "default-linux" stuff, except that their input would be very valued as |
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> they would be experienced in these matters. |
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Reason I say this is that time and time again the idea of server |
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profiles have been brought up. It's a task I've been willing/wanting to |
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take on and work with teams. |
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But in the end the result has always been that the |
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hardened profile is suitable/ideal for servers and that adding an |
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explicit server profile was opted against. Now by you creating one you |
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are effectively setting precedence of what a server profile should be. |
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> I have no problem with |
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> having some sort of meeting. My primary reason for the profile is to |
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> keep all of the "cruft" from dev-lang/php out of the desktop profiles |
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> and to keep the gnome and kde stuff out of the server profile. I *know* |
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> that they're not perfect or even what is necessarily desired, which was |
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> the point of including all of the profile stuff in the original email. |
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understood. Heads up however that the (PHP + portage + QA) teams have |
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been working together all morning on the best way to solve that bug. So |
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a creative solution might be right around the corner. |
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-peace |
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solar <solar@g.o> |
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