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On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 20:58, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: |
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> On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:22:35 -0600 "Daniel Robbins" |
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> <drobbins@g.o> wrote: |
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> | If some developers and managers don't see any purpose in GRP, make |
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> | sure they have an answer for the thousands of users that they are |
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> | supposed to be serving and who depend on it for a fast install. |
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> The main objection is not with GRP being used as part of the install, |
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> but with GRP being used *after* the install, when base library versions |
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> have been changed, USE flags have been modified and so on. GRP as it |
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> stands does not work properly in these situations. |
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True enough, I think (hope) that was what Kurt was referring to. The |
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users *need* GRP for quick installs. |
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About the non-install GRP. Many users do not care what USE flags they |
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use or what cflags they compiled with. They install Gentoo, use it, and |
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that is the end of the story (some users go on to using Gentoo for more |
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advanced means, but not all users do). |
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Having GRP that is built with the defaults presented in the system |
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profile for critical packages is something that we should strive for. If |
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we make it very explicit that we *will* not offer support for cases when |
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this GRP was used on a non-default (default meaning they have not |
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modfied the profile use settings, cflags, etc), then I do not see the |
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problem. We have to keep in mind that users are NOT developers - they |
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don't do to their systems what we do to ours. To most users, vanilla |
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gentoo is just fine. If they decide that it is not, they discontinue use |
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of the GRP and simply emerge everything from source. |
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What we offer the users is a win-win situation, they have binary |
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versions of critical packages for both ease of use and backup purposes |
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(them: I fried my GCC!!!! Us: ok, grab the package from x mirror to fix |
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it real quick). Of course, I will put this before -dev and -core, but |
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please keep an open mind. |
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Cheers, |
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//zhen |
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