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On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 23:17, Brad House wrote: |
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> > Tough, we all have 12 hour or close working days. As for calming down, |
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> > I _am_ calm - you have not seen me on the war path yet =) And I do not |
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> > imagine myself that the -r4 changes was not the only. |
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> > Also, 'resigning' from the livecd project because you overstep |
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> > boundaries with no visible regard for the impact or feelings of others, |
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> > is to be frank, silly. Ask me - any change that usually cannot wait a |
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> > few hours to be verified is usually a wrong one. I did this more than |
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> > once myself - overstepping boundaries for this 'critical' fix, and the |
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> > result was worse than what the few extra hours of waiting could ever |
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> > have done. |
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> > We do not ask your soul - we ask some sort of regard. Work with us, |
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> > and you will see that most of us will work with you. |
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> Seeing as I had already 'overstepped' my bounds as you put it and |
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> committed a -r4 in the first place (it was never anything you had |
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> committed), what was the harm at all in me updating my own ebuild? |
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I did not talk this time about -r4, I talked about the other commit. |
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> Anyhow, we use CVS for collaboration, etc, this send me a diff and I'll |
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> approve it thing is BS as long as we don't mess anything up, which I |
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> have taken steps to make sure I do not. |
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See below. |
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> Oh also, just as a little wood for your fire, I committed a patch to |
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> -r2,-r3,-r4, and -r5 that fixes a bug where /dev was not being created |
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> _again_. And I did view this as fairly critical, and it was simplistic. |
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If you want to get into it, then technically you 'fixed' it in the |
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wrong place. The real culprit in this situation (and others that might |
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pop up besides /dev if $ROOT != '/'), is keepdir_mount(). |
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> We are a team, I don't believe ONE person should hold up bug fixes, etc |
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> when things are easily fixed without disturbance. I view myself as a |
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> competant developer, if I were not, perhaps it would be a different |
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> situation. Again, I bring up the point, why do we use CVS if not to |
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> collaborate ? |
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Ok, so please go and commit to portage and see where that gets you. As |
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far as I can see, the only 'team' in your vocabulary, is the one that |
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gets you your way. You obviously fail to see why it is that some core |
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packages have, lets call it 'supervising maintainers' - its to make sure |
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that all changes are regulated and will not break something due to |
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limited understanding from less active developers when it comes to that |
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package. |
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Go and have a look at the kernel for instance. All major parts have |
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their respective maintainers who concur changes, and then send it off |
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to Linus. Same thing here. |
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The biggest issue here - or reason why I get 'my panties in a wad' - is |
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that you do not even have the decency to let me know about a change. I |
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never said I was the all mighty committer of baselayout - check the |
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ChangeLog .. others _do_ commit there ... _after_ they check with me. |
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Its not what you do, but _how_ you do it. |
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What you also seemingly seem to miss, is this is not about me getting my |
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undies tied up, but you repeatedly disregarding any type of system in |
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place, and doing as _you_ please. Yes, _you_. Great hey, its still all |
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about you - just get this ... its not in a good way? |
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So please, go get an ego adjustment; un-wad _your_ panties; and play |
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some ball. Just for the record - you did see that I did not CC releng? |
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I see I should apologise for underestimating your righteousness, |
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sorry :/ |
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Thanks, |
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Martin Schlemmer |
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Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop/System Team Developer |
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Cape Town, South Africa |