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On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 12:58 -0500, Yuri Gagarin wrote: |
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> Aren't Gentoo releases, such as 2007.0, a "gold seal" so to speak, |
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> denoting increased stability and QA scrutiny when compared with any |
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> randomly chosen Gentoo snapshot? This is the assumption behind my |
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> desire to base my deployment on the 2007.0 release, and it appears to |
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> be supported by the following claim on Release Engineering's project |
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> page: |
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Uhh... no. Gentoo releases are media refreshes, and nothing more. |
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All it means is that the packages that we build are tested to build and |
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work together in the default configuration. |
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> meaningful is the "gold seal" signified by that release.) Furthermore, |
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> because any issues currently holding back the 2007.0 "gold seal" are |
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> hidden from users by the restricted release tracker bug, I have no way |
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> to make an informed decision of whether or not to take my chances. |
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It doesn't matter. More than 90% of the things needed aren't even |
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tracked on the tracker. We simply don't bother filing bugs for things |
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we already know about or things that are internal to our build process. |
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Again, having access to the tracker really won't gain you anything, |
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especially considering the snapshot was taken some time ago. |
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> > If this is really something that would cause you to go to another |
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> > distribution over, there's not much that we can do about it and it is |
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> > likely that you might not be happy with Gentoo, anyway. |
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> I've been administering Gentoo systems happily for several years. |
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> Please don't dismiss my expectations; I believe they're reasonable |
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> given Release Engineering's stated goals. |
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I believe your idea of what goes on in Release Engineering is quite |
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flawed. Again, we only test the packages that we ship on the GRP/LiveCD |
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and only in the default configuration. Anything beyond that is |
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completely up to the maintainers, just as if you had done a normal sync. |
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Release Engineering is concerned with the quality of the media itself, |
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not of the tree as a whole. |
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What do you gain by waiting for a release/release snapshot? |
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- Knowing that GNOME/KDE/XFCE/etc build/run with default USE |
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- Knowing the stages build from stage1 with the default USE |
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That's really all you gain. We make absolutely no assurances to the |
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quality of any packages beyond default USE, or beyond the shipped |
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package list. |
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Chris Gianelloni |
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Release Engineering Strategic Lead |
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Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams |
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Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee |
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Gentoo Foundation |
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