Re: [gentoo-releng] 2004.2 planning

[Kurt Lieber]

On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 05:39:41PM -0400 or thereabouts, John Davis wrote:
> > Zhen i have much respect for the work your doing on livecds now, but are you
> > really so blind to the quality?
> >
> > Ive also seen notes that second kernel will be removed from future releases
> > (if we cant fix it remove it) , also framebuffer/bootsplash will be removed..
> > (same thing , cant fix it remove it).   If all of Gentoo did this, in  a few
> > years portage would be 2 ebuilds and a few scripts..
> >
> > The process needs to slow down a bit.
> >
> > And btw this is not just personal feelings, ive had almost all ppl touching
> > x86 livecds ask for help.
> > 					Bob
>
> Bob -
> No, I am not blind to the *numerous* QA problems. I did say that we have
> an enormous amount of room to improve, and I really do mean it; I don't
> see how that is being blind. We accomplished one of our goals, to get a
> release out on time and intact. Now, we work on QA and fix all of the
> problems. Its a step by step process, we can't expect to have it all at
> once. We have basically gone from nothing to a little bit of something,
> now we are moving towards the full something - each part takes time.

I didn't see Bob's original message, but he, Pieter and now myself are
going to be saying exactly the same thing.

Quarterly releases are too ambitious.  We need to slow down.

Right now, we're so focused on quarterly releases that we cannot take
enough time to develop features that may take longer than three months to
code, test and get ready to go.

As Pieter pointed out earlier, if we want to release something in July and
do proper QA on it ahead of time, we don't really have much time to do any
actual *development*.  Who cares if we're releasing 4 new versions a year
if they're all identical save for minor cosmetic/typo stuff?  

Quarterly releases need to stop.

--kurt