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Chris Gianelloni wrote: |
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> I'm starting to get more and more bugs from users whom have decided, |
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> against the recommendation of those of us in Release Engineering, to do |
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> a stage1 or stage2 installation using their custom USE flags, and |
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> finding that their installation is unable to complete properly. The |
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> problem stems from more and more packages adding more and more USE |
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> flags. We already recommend that all users perform a stage3 |
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> installation, but this doesn't appear to be enough to resolve the |
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> problem. What it really boils down to is the inability for us to test |
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> with all of the possible USE flag combinations and ever get a release |
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> out the door. |
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> As it stands, I only see a few options, none of which sound very good: |
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> 1. Only release stage3 tarballs |
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> 2. Inform users that only stage3 will be supported |
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> 3. Change the documentation to recommend users not change USE flags |
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> until after the completion of "emerge -e system" |
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> In pretty much every case, the real answer is "quit using stage1 if you |
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> don't know what you're doing" but unfortunately, we're going to get the |
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> pointless "but Gentoo is about choice" "argument" that really has no |
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> bearing on the truth of what is Gentoo. Gentoo is *not* about choice. |
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> Gentoo is about empowering the user to make the system as he sees fit. |
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> This means there is a certain expectation that when you start fiddling |
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> with stuff, you're going to pick up the pieces on your own. At any |
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> rate, the problem is only going to get worse as more and more USE flags |
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> are added. |
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> What can we do to curb this problem? |
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I am in favor of doing nothing but putting a warning on stage1 and stage |
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2 saying only useflags that will be supported are ntpl ntplonly |
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everything can and should be default IMHO. Then if they run into |
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problems it is their problem and not ours. As much as we are about |
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quality we still have a choice and if I choice a stage1 I do it for my |
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own personal reasons. I am basically favoring do not edit useflags until |
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stage3 if you make changes at this point you can use emerge -euD system |
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- --newuse to rebuild packages to support your USE flags. |
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That is just a small piece of my opinion. |
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