Re: [gentoo-releng] Gentoo Live DVD

[Chris Gianelloni]

On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 19:47 -0600, Gustavo Guillermo Pérez wrote:
> > Since it is not an official release, I'm not sure that we should be
> > hosting or endorsing it.  If the Friends of Gentoo e.V. want to host it
> > on their tracker, that's fine with me, but I pretty much completely
> > object to it being called a "Gentoo Live DVD"
> How is to be called, is the gentoo running on my hard drive (terminal server),
> maded Live?

Not "Gentoo" as you are not affiliated with Gentoo and it is not an
official project.  Feel free to call it anything from "Gustavo's
Terminal Server LiveDVD" to "Funky Chicken".  The point being that
"Gentoo" shouldn't be used.

> > as that will cause confusion with our users since it is *not* a Gentoo
> > LiveDVD (made by us)
> How can I proceed to follow the release standards for the next coming soon
> 2006.0, how to proceed to be some kind of member for make the Live DVD.?

The release standards means it must be created by a developer of Gentoo.
It must follow all of the release guidelines[1].  It must also be
something that we want to distribute.

Here is the way I see it.  This is *your* project.  *You* need to come
up with a *unique* name for it.  It isn't an official Gentoo project,
and for it to become one, you would really need to join Gentoo as a
developer and join Release Engineering.

> > and doesn't follow our release standards in any way.  This will be even
> > more confusing when I release an official Gentoo LiveDVD.  If it were my
> > decision, I would say that you would need to name it something else, and
> > find hosting for it.  A good example of this is RR4/RR64, which is
> > "based on Gentoo" but doesn't use our name.
> Ok, let me undestand, you said you need to do the Live DVD to be called a
> Gentoo Live DVD, ok let me know how can I make it tested by you guys and
> approved.

You have to follow through with the normal process of becoming a
developer.  It also needs to be something that the Gentoo project is
willing to host on our infrastructure.  Asking our volunteer mirrors to
host a 4GB DVD image that is essentially a special-use image isn't going
to fly.  The only place it could really be hosted in on our bittorrent
tracker.

> I have an idea, what happen if you check this first unofficial release, and
> see how it works and you guys tell me how to proceed for 2006.0, I can remove
> my logos about of course, and put only the stuff coming in an actual live CD
> related to bootsplash, I was added a pretty gentoo theme gfxboot.

I have no desire to add a terminal server image to our release
materials.  We are currently massively understaffed.  Adding something
as an official project means we have to support it.  With our current
staffing, we are looking to reduce the amount of release media to
support, not increase it.

While I appreciate your project, this is why I have suggested that you
instead host this yourself under a naming of your choosing that isn't
"Gentoo".  There's nothing stopping you from building a project on
Gentoo.  In fact, we encourage it.  That doesn't mean that we have to
host it or even really acknowledge it.

> Should be any way to mantain an official release, I hope. Or you are so closed
> about?

We are not accepting new release materials at this time.

You are more than welcome to try making it an official project, which
means you need to first find a current Gentoo developer to mentor you,
so you can become a developer.  You will then need to create the project
and publish it on Gentoo infrastructure.  As I said, we simply don't
have the resources to host and support something so single-use at this
time.

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
x86 Architecture Team
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux