Gentoo Archives: gentoo-releng

From: Anthony Gorecki <agorecki@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-releng@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-releng] Re: USE flags and stages 1 and 2
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:27:58
Message-Id: 200510311422.58977.agorecki@ectrolinux.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-releng] USE flags and stages 1 and 2 by Chris Gianelloni
1 On Monday, October 31, 2005 13:09, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
2 > 2. Inform users that only stage3 will be supported
3 > 3. Change the documentation to recommend users not change USE flags
4 > until after the completion of "emerge -e system"
5
6 These two options seem to be the most reasonable. If a user doesn't know how
7 to deploy a system using stage one or two, they should either be instructed
8 to use stage three, or be given alternate (more cautious) instructions for
9 the earlier stages. If, on the other hand, the person is familiar with the
10 inner workings of Gentoo and its packages, they would be likely to ignore the
11 instructions anyway.
12
13
14 > In pretty much every case, the real answer is "quit using stage1 if you
15 > don't know what you're doing" but unfortunately, we're going to get the
16 > pointless "but Gentoo is about choice" "argument" that really has no
17 > bearing on the truth of what is Gentoo.
18
19 I agree. A section of documentation could be created to explain that concept,
20 and bugs that were filed as a result of inexperience could then be closed and
21 redirected to the documentation.
22
23 I use USE="-*" in make.conf for all of my deployments because I don't want the
24 system's USE flags to be modified by Gentoo developers; I also don't have any
25 difficulty deploying such systems. Unfortunately, I see many individuals that
26 will leap to configure their systems in ways that cannot be maintained. In
27 those cases, the Gentoo developers should not be the ones to correct the
28 errors.
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32 Anthony Gorecki
33 Ectro-Linux Foundation

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Re: [gentoo-releng] Re: USE flags and stages 1 and 2 Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>