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On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 09:58 +0100, Rémi Cardona wrote: |
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> Chris Gianelloni a écrit : |
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> > Is it really that nobody cares or is everybody just being lazy and |
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> > saying "yeah, that's good enough" when I intentionally didn't list lots |
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> > of things that I'd came up with when writing the original list. I |
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> > honestly don't know which it is here. |
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> Do we know how many people actually use the software on the live media? |
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Yes. Every single person who uses the Installer uses the software on |
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the disk. |
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> Do they care if it's not 100% functional? |
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Yes, since anything non-functional ends up non-functional on their |
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machines. |
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Now, could we focus less on whether checking the software is a valid use |
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of time or not and instead look at *what* we should test within that |
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software? |
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> <personal experience> When I install Gentoo, I'll use which ever live |
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> CD/DVD/USB I can find, if not, I'll download the minimal install CD and |
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> the only pieces of software I'll use is dhcpcd and a web browser to read |
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> the handbook. I'll occasionally use screen and ssh{,d} if the box is too |
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> far from my desk. |
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We don't really care what you use. I mean no offense by this, but it |
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doesn't help *this* conversation any. |
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> So once you release a beta, that's what I'll be trying out first and |
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> foremost. |
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Sure. That's the absolute minimal amount of testing that we normally |
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perform. All we gain is knowing it works on your specific hardware and |
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not much else, since you're planning on testing the parts we test |
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extensively. |
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> But, wouldn't it be interesting to find out the usage patterns for our |
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> users before making a big list of things to check? |
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Not really. The quality should be as perfect as possible on everything, |
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not just the major things. The whole point here is to get community |
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involvement, which means many more eyes so we can cover much more |
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ground. |
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> Maybe not enough users do care to make it block QA and releng's time |
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> when making new releases. |
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We *want* to know what to test. That's the whole point. We've only |
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been testing certain things due to time constraints. If we had a more |
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comprehensive list, it would make a better release. Plain and simple... |
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Chris Gianelloni |
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Release Engineering Strategic Lead |
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Games Developer |
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