Gentoo Archives: gentoo-releng

From: Sven Vermeulen <swift@g.o>
To: gentoo-releng@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-releng] x86 (ppc?) cd layout for 2004.0
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 08:36:41
Message-Id: 20040218083657.GA2089@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-releng] x86 (ppc?) cd layout for 2004.0 by Daniel Robbins
1 On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 12:52:54AM -0700, Daniel Robbins wrote:
2 [...]
3 > Necessary changes to the docs to accomodate this: mention that if the
4 > user wants to install from stage2, the stage2 will need to be grabbed
5 > from our mirrors using wget. Most users don't use stage2, so this won't
6 > impact very many people.
7
8 This is fairly trivial.
9
10 > Users no longer need to do a cp -a /mnt/cdrom/packages/All/* step for
11 > CD1. This simplifies installation. The downside to this is that
12 > things like metalog and vixie-cron will need to be compiled from
13 > source. This isn't too horrible since they don't take particularly
14 > long to compile. And the sources for these packages will be included
15 > on CD1.
16
17 The main job here (documentation-wise) is to move all references to GRP
18 outside it's current location [1] and towards the beginning of the
19 installation (not the end as not all architectures follow the same
20 structure). That's not a real problem (at least not on first sight) but
21 translations of the Gentoo Handbook may lag behind a bit if this is pursued
22 for 2004.0.
23
24 > The lack of .tbz2s on CD1 would also mean that for the entire
25 > installation process up to the first reboot, you don't need to use
26 > "emerge -k." But using emerge with a -k would still continue to work.
27 > This could allow for simplification of the docs (remove unnecessary '-k'
28 > references.)
29
30 Those are already removed in the draft 'cause I hated them. Too many users
31 thought it was required.
32
33 > Please let me know what you think of this new layout proposal.
34
35 Well, personally I'm a bit disappointed as I won't be able to tell people
36 that Gentoo can be installed in less than 20 minutes without network
37 connection (it is possible using PORTAGE_BINHOST and an I'net connection).
38
39 I do agree with the advantages and don't see any showstoppers.
40
41 Wkr,
42 Sven Vermeulen
43
44 [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/draft/handbook.xml?part=1&chap=5
45
46 --
47 FOSDEM 2004 Free and Open Source Developers European Meeting
48 21 - 22 februari Brussels, Belgium http://www.fosdem.org
49
50 http://www.gentoo.org Documentation & PR swift@g.o

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Re: [gentoo-releng] x86 (ppc?) cd layout for 2004.0 Pieter Van den Abeele <pvdabeel@g.o>