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On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 13:43 -0800, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: |
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> Well ... at one time, Gentoo *was* about choice, but it's evolved to |
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> being about quality IMHO. As long as you're willing to make all the |
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> stage3 tarballs required, I see no reason to continue to support stage1 |
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> installs. The past couple of installs I did were stage1 -- I wanted to |
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> see how long it took, among other things. And I've never done a stage2 |
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> ... I've never seen the point in it. |
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Actually, it was a few very vocal users who made these claims long ago |
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and many people simply picked up on it. It's *never* been about choice |
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for the sake of choice. It has always been about empowerment. |
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> So my recommendation would be to eliminate stage1 and stage2 and just do |
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> stage3 installs. They're a lot faster too -- I think getting through |
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> stage1, stage2 and stage3 took about 6 hours on a 1 GHz P3, hardly a |
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> productive use of time. I think you might want to put a few more goodies |
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> in stage3, though -- vim for sure, and niceties like ufed, esearch, |
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> slocate, genkernel and grub at a minimum. When I do an install, the |
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> things I *always* bring in, whether desktop or server are: |
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We would absolutely not add any bloat to the stage3 tarballs. The |
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stages are supposed to be minimal sets of things that are absolutely |
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required based on the default USE flags and nothing more. |
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Yes, I would love to see vim and gentoolkit in all of the stages, along |
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with distcc and ccache, but it isn't ever going to happen and I happen |
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to agree with the reasoning for *not* doing it. |
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Chris Gianelloni |
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Release Engineering - Strategic Lead |
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x86 Architecture Team |
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Games - Developer |
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Gentoo Linux |