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From: Andrew Gaffney <agaffney@g.o>
Subject: Re: Call for feature requests for 2008.0 - Universal-CD
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:26:19 -0600
Peter Weber wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I now that Chris Gianelloni loves his LiveCD an the GUI-Installer and I
> know that he don't like to accept changes he don't support personally.
> But I do that know, so please don't kill me:
> 
> Gentoo should have again an Universal-CD again, because:
> 
> * Support for network/networkless-installation on one release-media

The LiveCD does this.

> * More flexibility as with Minimal-CD and LiveCD

The only "flexibility" that the universal has over the LiveCD is in allowing you 
a little more customization during a networkless install. However, you can 
always customize after the fact after installing with the installer.

> * Compared with LiveCD the footprint is generally small (necessary
> hardware, size of image)

If you want small, use the minimal. Also, you seem to be forgetting the GRP CD, 
which is required to make the universal CD actually useful.

> * Offers the classic full "Shell-Installation" who is loved by the
> gentoo-community (no voodoo-scripts, included stage3 and sources for the
> most important packages like vanilla-sources and bootloaders)

Why can't you open a terminal and install? I know I've done it many times from 
the LiveCD.

> * Could also offer a Ncurses-Installer and requires only some MB of
> space on the disk (without X11, Gnome, OpenOffice)
> * One consistent-installation way for all platforms (only x86/x86_64
> doesn't offer it currently)
> * Debian and Ubuntu (with its alternate-cd) offers currently more
> flexible solutions than Gentoo! Hey, who is here the meta-distribution?

Good for them.

> * There are currently unoffical Universal-CD avaiable, we don't need
> much work to prepare: http://download.libexec.de/ting/2007.0/

You're always welcome to build your own media if you don't like what we put out. 
Keep in mind that we are *volunteers*. We like the LiveCD, because it's easier 
to build and test. That means less time taken and less stress for us. If you 
don't like it, become a dev and volunteer for release engineering, and build the 
universal CDs yourself.

-- 
Andrew Gaffney                                 http://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffney/
Gentoo Linux Developer             Catalyst/Installer + x86 release coordinator
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