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On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 13:06, Kurt Lieber wrote: |
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> On Thu, May 27, 2004 at 12:36:38PM -0400 or thereabouts, John Davis wrote: |
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> > How does gentoopix obviate GRP? One of the installation cases that we |
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> > have to keep in mind is networkless installs. |
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> I don't agree with this assessment. Gentoo as a whole is almost iron-bound |
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> to some sort of network connection, preferably a fast one. |
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Kurt - |
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Perhaps we could name it LiveInstall? I am not sure if anyone else is |
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using that name, but it is an idea. |
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I think that LiveInstall and Catalyst have the possiblity to greatly |
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complement eachother and correctly solve many of the problems that GRP |
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was originally designed to address. I agree with many of your arguments, |
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and would like to go forward in exploring this, but I am still concerned |
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about networkless installs. The jigdo route is a route worth exploring. |
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>Gentoopix solves all of the same problems that GRP does, but it comes |
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>at a greatly reduced cost. There are far fewer QA headaches, build |
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>time, >bugs, mirror resources, etc required for Gentoopix than for GRP. |
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>Right now, we have to freeze trees, synchronize on versions of |
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> catalyst, create package lists, debug build problems with GRP sets and a |
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> number of other minor issues that arise as as result of GRP. Obviously, |
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> there still needs to be close coordination between the two groups, but they |
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> do not have to be linked at the hip in order to coordinate a successful |
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> release. |
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Really, there is not that much effort that goes into GRP. Most of the |
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time taken is build time. The package lists are created by releng, a |
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static release version of Catalyst is always at hand, and there are |
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rarely ebuild problems. |
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LiveInstall is something that will be very costly initially. LiveCDs are |
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a **Pain** to get working correctly. LiveInstall will be much more |
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difficult to get working than GRP ever was, but I think it has the |
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potential, if done correctly, to be very beneficial. It will still need |
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the close coordination, package lists, catalyst fixes, etc, but it will |
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result in a nicer experience for our users. |
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Cheers, |
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John Davis |
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