On Sat, 2008-01-26 at 21:49 +0100, Kamil Górnik wrote:
> I suffer lack of vi (vim) on stage3 since ever. It's not a big binary 
> and still there are those who prefer vi to nano.

This will likely never change, sorry.

> Every time I install gentoo the first time I need to do after setting up 
> the system is emerging vi before emerge -Du world.

...and the first step an emacs user has to do is emerge emacs... and...

We simply cannot win here.  No matter what, we'll have people who
complain.  Both emacs and vi are too "complex" for new users, and having
a text editor that is hard to use when first learning a new system is
simply too much to ask.  You know that you need vim, so just merge it.

Personally, I'd rather force vi and be done with it since it's listed in
the POSIX standard, but I'm also a vim user, so I have a pretty clear
bias.  This is exactly why you'll always see vim on the minimal CD, even
though it isn't "required" for installation.

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Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering Strategic Lead
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