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From: "Brad House" <brad_mssw@g.o>
Subject: Re: Release Info (long and thorough)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 17:05:51 -0500 (EST)

> Zisofs does not work on ppc.

Would have been nice if I would have been told that not having
gcloop was a showstopper for ppc.

> The addition of gcloop support to genkernel is the
> responsibility of the genkernel maintainer, not ours.

yep, and I thought every arch was kosher with what genkernel
currently provided for the 2004.0 release, and it was cool
if gcloop was a 2004.1 thing.

> Another reason is your inability to communicate ppc64 livecd plans to
> me. I expect ppc64 livecds to be exactly the same as a regular ppc
> livecd.

Well, the bootloader is the only 'same' thing about it. And like I said,
amd64 != x86, just like ppc64 != ppc ... you still have yet to address

> If I'm not mistaken you already announced ppc64 livecds on
> -dev, since you're also the genkernel developer, I would expect you to
> be qualified enough to integrate ppc livecd support yourself and allow
> me to spend more time on other assets important to gentoo.

The genkernel profiles will be totally different between ppc and ppc64,
don't know what you're talking about there.  It's only the catalyst support
for the bootloader that will draw any similarities.

> My question
> about this to this list (2 feb) is still unanswered. I'll repeat it
> here:
> "Is there a possibility ppc64 could integrate ppc32 livecd support into
> catalyst? If I'm not mistaken brad_mssw is closely related to both
> ppc64, catalyst, genkernel and even amd64 for which already livecds
> have been created using catalyst. I guess this would speed up
> development enourmeously."

I announced ppc64 would be ready for 2004.1, if you plan on doing a
2004.0 release, you might want to do some of the work yourself.  Plus,
I have no way to know what kernel configs a 32bit G3/G4 system would
need, and what kernels you all do/can use.

> What is scheduled to happen?

Hopefully have an initial ppc64 livecd by then end of this month for
pSeries, iSeries, but it will be extremely beta, and probably use
the 'normal' loop.

> Genkernel will get its ppc profile before 2004.0/ppc. For an accurate
> eta, I need to be able to schedule time for it.

Again, the profile is extremely trivial.  It consists of only a couple
of files, most of which you probably already have (e.g. kernel config).

> What could help
> realizing that is better communication, having an idea about current
> plans for genkernel/catalyst, and better catalyst livecd documentation
> (genkernel docs are fantastic). I have asked for these on this list on
> the 2nd of this month in two separate emails.

I take it you're being sarcastic on the genkernel docs. But if you
just even took the time to glance at the profile directories that
are already in genkernel and the README file that comes along with
it I think you should be able to figure it out in less than 2 minutes.
If not, I really have serious questions about you.

/me feels another flame war coming on.


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