Gentoo Archives: gentoo-releng

From: Jason Wever <weeve@g.o>
To: gentoo-releng@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-releng] So when is it really safe to take a snapshot to use for release?
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:52:55
Message-Id: 20040112113959.07206f12.weeve@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-releng] So when is it really safe to take a snapshot to use for release? by John Davis
1 On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:59:03 -0500
2 "John Davis" <zhen@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > The openssl fix was both. The current version of openssl has TEXTREL
5 > (static text relocations, compile w/ -fPIC to fix) in it, completely
6 > negating the affects of hardening measures such as PaX (Address Space
7 > Layout Randomisation). Even when not taking hardened into account,
8 > TEXTREL is just not a good thing to have in .so's (see Debian's
9 > development policy - they specifically disallow TEXTREL in shared
10 > libraries).
11
12 Is there a Gentoo bug or GLSA to track this then? In the future can we
13 have issues like this brought up sooner?
14
15 > Baselayout changes are essential if we want to have working LiveCDs.
16
17 However, coming into the last 1.5 weeks or so before release without our
18 build tools being fully functional, having to finish writing them, QA
19 them as well as the release seems like a rather large and daunting task to
20 try to adequately do in the timeframe provided, regardless of which arch
21 you are on.
22
23 > The purpose of the original release date was to meet LWE, but as it has
24 > been mentioned before, it is not crucial to release on that date (the
25 > 22nd). Gentoo is fluid, and so are our releases. Release when you can,
26 > just try to be as close to the 22nd as you can be. Dates are not as
27 > important as QA.
28
29 Why can't we have one unified release date for all architectures, rather
30 than one or two at a time?
31
32 > Your assesment is unfair. Our goal, as well as yours, is to provide
33 > excellent QA. If openssl and baselayout need bumped to fix security bugs
34 > and CDBOOT problems, fine; we cannot release something that is broken.
35 > The issue at hand has absolutely nothing to do with being a non-x86
36 > arch. I am sorry that it takes so long to build, but as I have said,
37 > release when you can. No one has got you in a chokehold to release on
38 > the 22nd. If you release on the 29th, I do not care. What I do care
39 > about is QA. Make sure your release is tested, which I am sure you will
40 > do.
41
42 Then somewhere we need a release TODO list, that shows each task that
43 needs to be completed and what it's current status is. This will allow us
44 all to make better and more informed decisions.
45
46 I'm not trying to be overly ornery here, I'm just trying to do the best
47 job I can.
48
49 --
50 Jason Wever
51 Gentoo/Sparc Team Co-Lead

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