On 10 Feb 2004, at 23:05, Brad House wrote:
>> Zisofs does not work on ppc
One of the reasons for the creation of a 2004.0/ppc sneak preview
release was to give the genkernel team some time to implement gcloop
compression in catalyst, this is no longer a ppc requirement for 2004.0
since we have a recent kde/gnome cd now. Zisofs being ppc incompatible
has been mentioned before on both this list and on a gentoo meeting on
which the requirements for catalyst were discussed. I only contributed
verbally to the requirement document for genkernel, and did not write
the actual document, I wasn't asked to approve/check it either, in fact
I haven't seen one. Please note that the genkernel SRS writer included
'pvdabeel should know' in his notes. I'm not the one to blame if nobody
asks me, or takes into account my remarks. It is clear there was an
issue with genkernel requirements , holding back ppc, and I solved it.
Shouldn't we all be happy about it?
The ppc team is completely kosher with current genkernel for 2004.0, we
were however due to time and manpower constraints (this included
building a sneak preview) unable to commit our stuff as fast as the
others, something which you described as non-kosher ("we -refused- to
commit", rather than "we are -unable- to commit", do you see the
difference?). My email described why we were unable to commit as fast
as the other architectures. There's no reason to be paranoid about it:
Genkernel will get its much requested ppc profile, but everything at
the right time. We are busy, busy, busy...
I have addressed ppc64 with Tom Gall on irc, I was hoping we could do
the same, hence my numerous requests (2nd of february). What I require
to happen between ppc32 and ppc64 is coordination. I don't want to see
anything that prevents coordination, and we clearly have started out in
an incorrect way.
I'm glad to hear (finally) that ppc64 will do livecd support by the end
of this month. ppc will most likely wait with integrating ppc32 livecd
support until you're finished then, to avoid duplicating efforts (think
linuxrc rather than kernel .configs). I find it rather annoying that
you're not able to answer this simple question much sooner, and am
happy I will be able to fall back on your (so far excellent) genkernel
work at the end of this month. Again, this will allow me to invest more
time in other gentoo aspects.
I am not being sarcasting about genkernel documentation or genkernel
code, I know how annoying initrd creation can be. I wrote on the second
of february that catalyst lacks good livecd documentation, genkernel on
the contrary is an excellent example of how it should be done. There
are more comments in there than code :-) Please let us start working
together in a professional context.
> /me feels another flame war coming on.
I don't see why that would help gentoo?
Please note that I have updated my documents to include ppc64 in the
ppc scope. I will be very flexible about ppc64, but I require you to
use your coordination capabilities to communicate with ppc32, if you're
intending on leading that subproject.
Pieter Van den Abeele
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